Re: Civics (was Re: RE XP or 2000)

["M.W. Poirier" poirmw@xxxxxxxx]

 I have a tendency to think that we have substituted training for
 education, and there is a difference, ...a rather major one. Edu-
 cation is about the transformation of self, whereas training is
 about the acquisition of a skill that can either be sold, or the
 products of which can be sold. Training does not require much or
 any transformation of self, and so one can graduate from a univer-
 sity and be the same person one was when one went in. This was
 not possible in times past. It is today, unfortunately. So a
 whole lot of things have changes, ...and not only civics courses,
 which are no longer necessary if people are well trained.

 M.W. Poirier
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Harry Binswanger wrote:

> (...)
>
> Actually, it's been going on for longer than that. When my teacher, John H.
> Randall, Jr., went to Columbia, near the turn of the century, you had to
> demonstrate a reading knowledge of Greek and Latin to *be admitted.* By
> 1967 or so, in order to use Greek as one of your two required languages to
> get a *Ph.D. in philosophy,* you had to get special permission. And by
> circa 1970, you could use COBOL as one of your two languages for the Ph.D.
> in philosophy. (Sadly, it was too early to give credit for XPL.)
>
> Harry Binswanger
> hb@xxxxxxxx
>
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