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RE: Pleading Paper



Marc,

 

Cannot speak directly to your system but in California, almost all law books (except the official annual reports of decided cases - which are available online)  have gone to a “binder” format (rather than hardbound)  and when “changes” occur, they simply print replacement pages as often as required for any pages that have changed or new material.

 

It’s a goldmine for the legal publishers.  Every year (more or less) you get a rather fat package of new replacement pages with instructions to replace old pages 32-48 with new pages 32-48 etc.  When they add to a page they number 61-61a-61b-61c, etc..  All this for numerous sets of books needless to say.

 

This way you buy the book, then basically buy it again each year.  You do however have current material since the book is always up to date (more or less) and the book can be changed as often or as infrequently as required.  This is normally done after a session of the legislature that changed the laws.

 

By the way, the “legal pleadings” you are unfamiliar with are simply plain white paper with a double line down the left side and a single line down the right side and numbers (usually 1 to 28 vertically) to the left of the double line on the left.  The text goes between the lines and aligned with the numbers.  In most jurisdictions in America, this is the format required for most pleading documents although California in particular often uses “Judicial Council Forms” for specific types on information in specific cases.   

 

Regards, Jim

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc
Sent:
Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:44 PM
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Pleading Paper

 

Hello Jim (and all)

 

I’m pretty new to this discussion group (and fairly quiet…better to be quiet and thought of as an idiot, than open your gob and remove all doubt!!)

I am unfamiliar with what you call “legal pleadings” and their format.

I worked for a legal publisher company in New Zealand called Brookers, which was a family owned business when I started there.

They print ‘insets’ which are any and all changes to current legislation, on very light paper (40gsm I think) – and they have a group of annotators who go out to client’s sites and physically paste these bits of paper into the relevant page of the relevant book. I extract this information for them twice a year. Every month I extract Advance Annotations (the same as Insets, but sorted into Alphabetical order, rather than book order) which they mail out. These are collected in a binder by the client for reference until the next lot of insets are pasted in.

The end result is that the client should have up-to-date legislation available to them, with no more than 4-6 weeks of info missing.

This is all done using XY3.57. It was developed in the mid-late 80’s and with some modifications by myself, is still going strong. It uses styles and labels in order to extract the information for the particular run being processed.

 

Brookers have since moved to XY Vision (no relation) using SGML markers, however they still need to use XY Write for the functionality of XPL.

I am no Word macro expert (especially compared to XY Write) but I could not suss out how to get Word to open all files in a directory (BC ca *.* XC)

 

As far as I’m aware, there is nowhere else in the world that has a system similar (I’d be interested to hear if there is).

 

Marc.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Lawhon
Sent:
Monday, 16 September 2002 1:00 p.m.
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Pleading Paper

 

I’m new to discussion group but an old hand at xywrite

purchasing originally in 1982.

 

I apologize if this has been discussed

and resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.

 

I have been successfully printing legal pleadings

with xywrite (both dos and windows versions) for

about 20 years.

 

Plain paper in, a perfect document on pleading paper

(everything perfectly aligned) out.

 

Piece of cake but I would be interested in discussing the

matter with anyone else who does this (or wants to) to

compare notes for mutual benefit.

 

Should qualify my solution by saying that I “overlay”

the pleading paper by sending a macro (rather simple)

to printers that use PCL (printer control language).

 

I even “create” perfect xywrite files by extracting data from a

Foxpro database then sending that data plus the appropriate

control codes plus whatever “text” I wish to have with the

final result being a perfect document that can be called up

in xywrite, tweaked a little then printed

(on pleading paper created on the fly).

 

Regards, Jim