Re: F5--and everything went black...

[Michael Norman michael.norman@xxxxxxxx]

At 11:19 AM 6/28/2007, Robert Holmgren wrote:
> I know why you use Tame (I've been using it since 1991, and was
> talking about it long before it became the tool du jour here --
> see http://xywrite.org/msg01714.htm). I'm merely
> pointing out that putting Tame in AUTOEXEC.NT loads it as a TSR
> before every DOS program. I use dozens of DOS programs. Most
> do not require Tame. Therefore, the suggestion to use Tame
> surgically: create a distinct AUTOEXEC clone that does use
> Tame, attach that to your XyWrite shortcut, and leave the
> original AUTOEXEC.NT alone. (Note that David Thomas's Tame
> installation automatically edits the main AUTOEXEC.BAT and adds
> TAME-NT.COM to it, because he assumes users want to use Tame
> with every DOS app. I comment that line out in my main
> AUTOEXEC.NT, and copy it to my Tame AUTOEXEC clone.)


Me too...now. I took your lead, and once I discovered that the new
program call created that second .tam settings file, and that I could
easily copy my settings to it, everything worked fine. And your point
about TAME loading TSR for all DOS sessions is well taken. It made me
rethink what I'd thought was a TAME/Notabene conflict -- that TAME
stayed loaded after you quit XY, or that the it was being invoked by
the NTVDM module in NB. For the record, not true, at least here.
Running Process Explorer I can find no instance of TAME after
quitting XY and running NB. My NB problems, few now, were just
Notabene problems. Anyway, thanks very much for the shortcut tweak
and provoking the thinking on all this.


PS: Noting the title of this thread, I wonder if Jon is still
struggling with his F5 key.


Michael Norman