Re: what/where are the Vista basics?

["Andy Turnbull" andyt@xxxxxxxx]

I'll got the the simplest possible setup. I want one typeface that I can
read, and then I want to forget it. The people I write for do their own
typesetting, and I don't second guess them.
I guess when I get up the nerve to try Tame, I will probably go for the
earliest possible version -- on the assumption that that is the simplest.

andy t
----- Original Message -----
From: "Myron Gochnauer" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: what/where are the Vista basics?
Harry,

If that is your screen, could you give us the settings you used?

Tame has at least three settings files that are simply text files.
Perhaps you could copy them into a posting.

Myron

On 2009-10-04, at 12:53 PM, Harry Binswanger wrote:
Andy,

Okay, I agree with Maben, below.

If you want to see what kind of screen Tame can produce, go to:

www.hblist.com/Xy-Tame.jpg

Note, URL is case-sensitive.
 Andy:

 My advice is a bit different from Harry's. I would not download the
 latest version. It you are at all uncertain, and are not quite sure
 about what the latest versions of TAME can do, you could get
yourself
 into a bit of a mess. Of course, it is easy enough to get out of
the
 mess, but it could discourage you from trying the early versions.
So
 try an early version first. It will do what you want, reduce CPU
 hogging. As for the rest of Harry's comment, I agree with him.
NOTE:
 the earlier version are lower down on TAME Dos's download page. I
 think the one in the middle position may be the version you want.

 If you want to try later versions after, then go ahead. The later
 versions, and very specifically Ver. 5.1 Pre 7, which seems to be
the
 version that a few of us like, allows you to configure your screen
in
 a number of ways that are not accessible in regular DOS. For
instance,
 you can see italic fonts on screen, ...no underlining , if you don't
 want it, and no backgrounds of a different colour to symbolise
italic.
 Same for bold, etc. As for screen colours, they can be the way
you like
 them, etc., plus a number of other features.

 M. W. Poirier

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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Harry Binswanger wrote:
I think it's free trial and then $25 if you want to keep it.
There's essentially zero support. The author, David Thomas, used
to do things for us, but now is reclusive. Also, when he does
communicate, his language is terse and fairly incomprehensible.

That said, it's worth trying It's a simple install (takes about 10
seconds), and not invasive. I'd just download whatever is the
latest version (the one he offers for downloading at tamedos.com).
Give it a whirl and see if it works for you out of the box.

Several of us here have been running Xy in Tame versions for years.
sounds interesting, but I'm suspicious and I can't find any
reviews. Their website also doesn't tell me what it costs.
Any comments, for or against this program?
also, at least one website seems to offer it for free. what's
the difference between the early or later versions?
andy t
----- Original Message ----- From: "M.W. Poirier"
>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: what/where are the Vista basics?

 I'm about to sound like Harry, but download TAME DOS, and you
will
 see your CPU usage fall. Download one of the early versions,
if you
 don't need all the features of later versions.

 M. W. Poirier
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Andy Turnbull wrote:
Interesting. I had heard before that dos was a memory hog in
windows, but
never tested.
I run xy iiia (I can't make iv work well) in a 3-4 year old
toshiba laptop,
with about 1.5 megs of ram. After reading this I did ctrl+alt
+delete on
windows, selected the 'performance' tab and watched while I
opened a file and
wrote something in xywrite. cpu usage shot up to about 90%!
surprise -- but I've kept the thing open while I write this,
and usage is
still running 70 - 90% -- and this is a windows program.
I wonder how the old machines got by with somuch less memory?
andy t
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Troop" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: what/where are the Vista basics?
I guess I must enjoy the sound of groaning, or I wouldn't be
asking
the following:
I've been running XyWrite IV under Vista for about a year and
a half
on what was at the time a powerful Dell 1720 laptop.
Strangely, it has taken all this time for me to notice that if
XyWrite isn't running, my CPU usage is around 20% rather than
80%
when it is running. I guess that's because I use XyWrite all
the time.
Obviously, there must be some basic things I have failed to
set up
properly. Do we have anything resembling a Vista guide? I've
done a
bit of a search through the list archives and via Google, not
coming
up with anything.

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