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Re: A radical idea: a new XyWrite



Phil,

If the source code can be obtained somehow, it should be turned into an
open-source project. That way it would gain much more developer interest
and perhaps even sponsors.


Reviving the Atex heritage is also something to consider: after all, the
publishing industry might be interested in an open-source typesetting
alternative. Why XyWrite developers did not keep the typesetting focus
beats me. The mainframe ancestor of XyWrite is alive and still doing
business:

 https://www.atex.com/

Down memory lane: PC Mag on Atex and XyWrite (1984):
https://books.google.fi/books?id=amQldGdl9LkC&lpg=PA211&ots=ETFn-WHdwk&dq=atex%20xywrite&hl=fi&pg=PA203#v=onepage&q=atex%20xywrite&f=false

The XyWrite text format which I have put into good use in
lexicographical text databases is not the best for modern applications.
I am converting it to XML-type format myself. No doubt, it is an editing
convenience in its simplest form (Xy3). An XML-based format is what is
required today. The current NB lacks it, and is scorned by users that
opt for programs like Oxygen XML Editor (https://www.oxygenxml.com/).
But if we drop the Xy format, what is left of XyWrite?


As to typography, there are plenty of capable free alternatives.
Scribus (https://www.scribus.net/) for general typography.
TeX packages offer a lot for technical writers:
https://www.tug.org/interest.html#free

or Lyx for math: https://www.lyx.org/
Universities are using these and their commercial brethren like
ShareLaTeX (https://www.sharelatex.com/).


What would have we to offer that is better or even close to what there
is already there for free? I must say that my initial 'vaste programme'
comment is by no means exaggerated. A paid application is out of the
question. An open-source hobby project for a few aficionados may be
doable if the source code becomes available.


Best regards,

Kari Eveli
LEXITEC Book Publishing (Finland)
lexitec@xxxxxxxx

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One of the many powerful assets of Atex/XyWrite was that it was capable of being /programmed/. A new implementation should have hooks for running/using scripts written in modern program and scripting languages. Conjectures can be infinite and still gets nothing done. Perhaps it would be a good idea for the various participants to throw out a few ideas of what they would like to see in a new embodiment of XyWrite. We could discuss, see the potentials and perhaps come up with something that would make it useful for all of its traditional uses and find some that would make it even more relevant for today. The distribution method and form are important, too. Depending on the source we use, and the cost, we could consider making this available as a modestly priced utility, or ’app,’ making it available on line or even as a public domain project that could become self-perpetuating.