Re: xy 4.018 and counter

["M.W. Poirier" poirmw@xxxxxxxx]

  Patricia...

  Just a quick reply to your first issue. Have a look at your
  STARTUP file and/or your SETTINGS file. I think that you will
  see a line there that relates to this issue. If it's in the
  STARTUP file, change the numbers to something more appropriate,
  and they will become the default. Alternatively, if all you
  want to do is experiment, go to Advanced, Preferences, Defaults,
  and Type Style. What numbers do you see there. They should
  be the same numbers as in your STARTUP file, ...I think. If I
  am wrong, Robert will correct me.

  I have discovered something interesting in this connection. It
  is this: If I start XY4 from with a DOS window, my numbers are
  those that I have set, namely 60,60,45. If I start XY4 from a
  Windows icon, the numbers are 57,55,7. I don't know where these
  numbers are coming from. Go figure. Do you also see a difference
  depending on how you start up XY4?

  Concerning linking the text file with the endnotes file, I let
  XY4's Import feature do that. In the case at hand, because I
  did not want to burden you with the whole article I am writing,
  I brought together a section from the beginning of the text part
  with a section from the beginning of the endnotes part, which
  included the code at the top of the endnotes part.

  You seem to imply that there is a more appropriate way of handling
  notes (footnotes and endnotes), yet, when I asked how best to
  do this a few months back, the general consensus seemed to be to
  create two files, one for text and another for notes. At the
  time I was running into problems because I had too many footnotes,
  you may recall. Are you now saying that this problem can be remedied
  differently? I would like to be able to run with only one file,
  if that were possible. What I am doing at the moment is I run
  with footnotes till I encounter a problem, which usually occurs
  when I get around 24  footnotes. I then extract the footnotes,
  and begin using counter numbers in both the text and the notes files.
  I suppose I could use two files from the start, but that would re-
  quire that I develop a different work habit. Finally, I know what
  you mean when you speak of note numbers being out of sync, but this
  has not been a problem for me, ...so far.

  M.W. Poirier

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Patricia M Godfrey wrote:

> Curioser and curioser. With your file open, when I issue Robert's command
> (VA/NV $LH) I get 50,100,22. That is also what I get when I call up an
> old file of mine, so it must be my default, not anything set mysteriously
> in your file. (Though a search of my Xy directory yields no files
> containing a lh= value.) But according to the explanation of this default
> in the CG, that should mean that my superscripts would be a whole line
> above the baseline (100 percent). They certainly don't look that high on
> screen. Anyway, though this is a fascinating question and worth
> exploring, I suspect it's a red herring here.
> 	The file you sent us has been cut and pasted, no? I mean, you copied the
> actual notes into it, rather than letting linktx do it? So please send us
> two short files, one with some text, one with a few notes, and the EXACT
> code you use to link. I'm also puzzled by your combining SS with LINKTX
> and then having no US command. Remember that SS saves to the style ALL
> defaults in effect when it's issued--its great strength, but also a great
> weakness and a cause of endless puzzlement on occasion.
> 	I would also suggest that another way to reset the counter numbers
> before appending the notes would be to create a template file for each
> chapter, including all the formatting code and styles you need, and then
> embedding ≪C1=1≫ at the end. As you go to write each chapter, MErge
> that file. Then at the end, when you're ready to import the notes, just
> go to the end and import them. The reset code will be there.
> 	I'm also concerned that this method of creating notes could get you into
> a LOT of trouble. Yes, Xy does choke on a large number of endnotes
> (though I don't recall that it did that when running under Novell DOS, so
> this may be something else to lay at Redmond's door). Have you tried
> using footnotes while you're writing and even pulling proofs, and then
> cutting and pasting them to endnotes (three XPL routines for that around,
> RH's, Leslie's, and mine) when you're all done? For some 15 years I made
> a specialty of copy editing stuff with lots of notes, bibliographies,
> references, and other apparatus criticus, and the number of times I saw
> notes out of sync with their numbers in the text would make your hair
> curl. How we managed before computers I cannot imagine, because even with
> them, things can get royally scrambled.
> Patricia