I realize of course that messages saying positive things about
Windows 10 are not entirely welcome on this list, but here goes.
The excessively long startup and shutdown times on my 6-year old
64-bit machine running Win 7 were drastically reduced by upgrading
to Win 10. And on my 64-bit laptop running Win 8.1, the touch pad
under Win 10 now plays nice with an attached mouse whether connected
by USB or bluetooth. After 6 months of use, I have concluded that
Windows 10 is perhaps the best Window OS I have ever used, at least
as good a 7, once I disabled some of its tendencies to check in with
the mother ship. Indeed, it's fair to say I no longer miss OS2 as I
did for years after I switched to Windows. I have refused no
updates so far, and I believe that they have actually helped to
improve OS performance. I'm sure that Microsoft wants everyone to
eventually update to 10 and probably, at some point, pay a
subscription, but I don't necessarily see that as being somehow evil
either. I am willing to pay for essential software that is actively
supported. It's a solid product without the ugly appearance of 8.1
and has worked virtually flawlessly so far.
Cheers,
Bill TeBrake
UMaine History Emeritus
On 5/26/2016 3:56 PM, Michael Norman
wrote:
Jordan,
You’re
right. My WIN7 machine is six+years old at this point, and I
spend at least three-five hours a week chasing after this
anomaly or that. BTW, turns out that GWX Control Panel and
Never10 don’t get all the W10 updates M$ sends,
tsunami-like, our way. Take a look here:
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/
Found
seven of the updates on his list.
Michael
I
think there are just inherent defects in most editions
of Windows to date, some more serious than others, and
some more luck of the draw depending on your
particular history and configuration. I help out an
XP user who has recurrent USB port / device
recognition problems. The latest on that seems to be
that the system keeps losing track of drive letter
assignments. If that proves to be correct, it will be
more on-the-spot fixable, but a continuing annoyance.
64-bit W7 can't reliably copy large files on its own
without corruption, necessitating use of a third-party
utility like TeraCopy. I have a couple W7 systems
where Windows Update has ceased working, and just
hangs interminably. There is a nice series of fix-it
videos for this on YT, but so far none of them has
solved this problem for me. I suppose I may have to
try to uninstall / re-install Win Update. There even
seems to be a KB expressly for this, but I would
probably need to download it separately and try to
apply it manually. (One incidentally good thing about
this is that if no updates can get processed, all
these sneaky, underhanded attempts by MS to slide W10
under the door can't get in either !)
Your
lengthy shutdowns seem like another such anomaly --
one I think I've seen before -- which may indicate
that something is munged in the OS on that computer.
Thanks, Daniel.
I ran both Never10 and GWX Control Panel, both
of which were easy to use and
seemed effective. As it turned out, I'd
managed to avoid letting M$ install
any W10 components on my W7/64 Pro machine,
which, in turn, suggested that
my long shut-downs had nothing to do with a
lurking W10 process. I've tried
every protocol I could find - disabling
services and programs with msconfig,
sweeping for malware. There's seems to be a
lot of misinformation on this
problem (several normally reliable sites
suggesting registry edits from on
XP -- keys that do not exist in Win7.
"Stopping services" still takes 31
seconds. I think my next stop is Windows
Performance Toolkit to try to find
out which process is taking so long. At all
events, thanks again for the W10
blocking suggestions.
Michael
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf
>Of Daniel Say
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:54 PM
>To:
>
>> I'm getting updates that either
refer directly to Win 10 or are
>> described as preparation for it AND
claim to fix some glitch in the
>> Win 7 opsys at the same time. At
least one every update cycle. I think
>> they're just launching them
monthly. Hope this stops when they finally
>> start charging for W10. I'm about
to install GWX to flush my system of
>> any W10 files lurking and waiting.
>
>And there is Never10 from Steve Gibson
>https://www.grc.com/never10.htm;
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
>
>But read the March 2016 Article by
Lincoln Spector noting caution, and
Microsoft's own
>Block Windows 10 suggestions.
>
>http://www.pcworld.com/article/2998967/windows/how-to-block-the-windows-10-;
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2998967/windows/how-to-block-the-windows-10-
>upgrade.html
>
>And you can search for Microsoft's
well-hidden troubleshooter package,
KB3073930,
>which allows you to hide or block
Windows Updates and, crucially, driver
updates.
>
>As well as the GMX software often
mentioned
>http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-;
http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-
>remove.html
>
>http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GWX_control_panel.exe;
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GWX_control_panel.exe
>
>Best of Luck, or buy another computer to
store away after creating the boot
>disks/usb/DVDroms.
>
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