Not at all. I almost never use the drop-down menus but call stuff from the .DLG all the time. I don't even use them for size and font. I just put in theWhen you're talking about the .DLGs, you're necessarily referring to stuff that happens via the drop-down menus, right ?right into the file. The font itself is "..." is the font's name (which you have to remember). "uf" stands for "use font."where the Harry Binswanger hb@xxxxxxxx