I believe it was Sam Chung (XyQuest). I wish I had asked Erikson to elaborate on what Chung's interface consisted of. Personally, I'd like to see a GUI app like the ones I use (Textpad or EditPlus) with Xy abilities. -BrianH. -----Original Message----- From: J R FOX Was the other (developer) name you were trying to recall John Hild ? Jordan