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Re: A radical idea: a new XyWrite



Phil,

My assumption is that we are too few to interest NB much. It’s an intriguing idea to interest NB users in XPL. Which really means, in the U2. They actually should want it, because it is a fantastic productivity aid.

There are a few former XyWriters in the NB community. Or were. I recall one who worked at Columbia U. Press and was fairly active on this list (I’d have to look up his name), and there must be a few others. Does Tim Baer use NB now?

The impression I get is that NB users are non-technical, so U2 would be the selling point, because we can write its routines. (“We” as in Carl.)

I would cast U2 as a library of plug-ins, no installation necessary (after the initial change to the kid file to add a help key).

Actually, maybe the U2 as plug-ins library could be sold to NB, rather than going through users.

The other way to go is to offer NB say $3,000 for them to deliver (and minimally support, at least for the first month or so) a functioning NB qua XyWrite (which Paul thinks they have).

I wonder if $3,000 would be enough to get their attention.

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On Apr 19, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Philip White mailto:pdwhite@xxxxxxxx wrote:

What’s wrong? Are they simply unresponsive to the needs of their customers, or is they consider this to be just a request from an esoteric few?

 

If the latter is the case, perhaps you (ALL) should just extoll the virtues of XPL in the NB on-line forums. Perhaps creating an audience might cause them to consider it more seriously…

 


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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:31:54 PM
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Subject: Re: A radical idea: a new XyWrite
 
Philip

The problem with 32 bit Nota Bene is that is does not support XPL
routines.  The last 16 bit version, NB9, is the best for that, though
not perfect.  Use of the command line is a bit dodgy too, in my
experience.  However from what I understand, 32 bit NB would be capable
of backwards compatibility, with some modification.  As I noted in my
post for Harry, I believe such a stripped back version exists already
within NB.

I have in the past tried to persuade NB to release this, or something
similar to us but time (at NB to devote to the project) has always
seemed the stumbling block.  Personally I would be happy with a stripped
down version of NB that is capable of running all the XPL routines we
like.  However that would require the acquiescence of NB and I am not
sure if the company would be cooperative.  If it does not have
resources, would it be interested in letting us create a working version
to our liking?  We can only ask.

Best wishes

Paul



On 19/04/2018 17:11, Philip White wrote:
If Nota Bene does everything you need on a modern OS platform and has
all the editing capabilities that XyWrite did/does, why do we need to
reinvent the wheel?

If there is some issue that Nota Bene has missed the boat on, let’s
remedy that or port XyWrite out of the past into the present. What does
EVERYONE think?


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*From:* mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx on
behalf of Harry Binswanger mailto:hb@xxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:50:28 AM
*To:* xywrite@xxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: A radical idea: a new XyWrite

Harry, I don't know if you have forgotten or are just choosing to ignore
the discussions you and I had with Steve at NB a couple of years ago on
just this subject.

Paul,

That was on my mind, but I didn't refer to it directly. And I didn't
recall that Steve said that they had a version of NB 10 that was what we
wanted. I'm going back to re-read that exchange now.

Regards,
Harry