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Re: Off topic question...Tame related.
- Subject: Re: Off topic question...Tame related.
- From: "M.W. Poirier" poirmw@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:51:05 -0400 (EDT)
Robert: You raise an interesting point below. If the
I386 directory is not in the path, and not as important
as sustem32, then no wonder I an not having a problem
with Tame5.1, Pre 5 on my desktop. The only place NTVDM
is found on my desktop is in that directory as far as I
can tell, whereas it in three places on my laptop. What
is this file about? Do you know? Can it be rendered in-
active simply by changing the ender? It seems that it is of
not great importance, since it figures only in I386 on my
desktop.
Can the rest of you tell me where NTVDM is located on your
machines? Do you even have it on your machines? It is
maybe one of those files that Robert says are overkill.
I think that I am going to rename it on laptop's system32
directory and see what happens.
By the way, both my machines have XP Pro, with SP2.
M.W. Poirier
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Robert Holmgren wrote:
> ** Reply to message from "M.W. Poirier" on Sat, 15
> Jul 2006 13:01:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
> > If you are using a laptop and a desktop, what do your
> > two systems say about this NTVDM file? Are they the
> > same size on each machine?, and does the laptop have
> > three versions like mine does?, and which of the three
> > is the important, ...I suspect that it may be the one
> > in dir I386.
>
> The operative copy is the one in ...\system32. (I mean, are any of those other
> locations, like I386, even in the DOS Path? Seriously doubt it...) Check the
> dates on all three copies -- which is most recent? What version of XP+SP# are
> you running? The way to determine what app is running is to start
> SysInternals' (free) Process Explorer application (laughably superior
> replacement for M$ Taskman [Task Manager]), View ==> Select Columns ==> Process
> Image ==> make sure "Command Line" is checked, then hover over the "Command
> Line" column of any instance of NTVDM.EXE -- it will display the complete
> command line + arguments.
>
> > why is it that I am the only one to have the problem?
>
> You've got a different computer! Even if you reboot and launch *nothing*,
> you've already probably got 20-40 apps running under the radar, all sorts of M$
> crap, dozens of drivers, all unique to you. Here's the deal: XP is a
> general-purpose operating system, and M$ takes the position that rather than
> trouble you the user with technical details, they're just going to run
> everything under the kitchen sink in background, to handle all possible
> contingencies. So you've got all manner of firewall and antiviral baggage
> running, schedulers galore that check in like once a month to see if there are
> updates, this and that -- it's all JUNK. And, the amount of this "stuff" is
> directly proportional to the user's ignorance. Contrast that with Linux
> distros, the majority of which are specific-purpose, with little or no excess
> fat.
>
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> Robert Holmgren
> holmgren@xxxxxxxx
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