Re: dictionary memory

["Russ W. Urquhart" urqurw@xxxxxxxx]

On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 02:29:33PM -0400, Leslie Bialler wrote:
> Myron Gochnauer wrote:
> >
> > Last week, with a little help from my friends, I reported that I could
> > use the UK dictionary with Xy 3.017 in a Win95 DOS window or full-
> > screen session by setting EMS to 4096.
> >
> > But now, a few days later, with the same settings, XyWrite reports
> > "Insufficient memory for the function". And nothing I do can get it
> > to work again.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Oddly, if I load XyWrite this way (from a Win95) desktop icon and
> > call a file that is about 100K in size, XyWrite begins to use an
> > overflow file ( the "X" goes on ).  I don't remember this happening
> > before until I had called much larger files.
> >
> > Any idea what is affecting memory availability?
>
>
> Aha! The case of the reappearing X is the key. Is EMS extended memory or
> expanded memory? I never remember. At any rate the Windows memory
> managers, e.g., HIMEM.SYS use the other. Indeed, by default, or so I
> recall, Windows understands that "no ems" is active.

if i remember correctly, EMS stood for Expanded Memory System, and that
extended was the other memory that Windows and other protected mode OS's
, supposedly, readily understood. I believe that when you say NOEMS you are
saying that you want none of your Extended memory to emulate/be used as
Expanded memory.

I had thought that Xywrite, as a lot of DOS apps at the time did, understood
and used Expanded Memory. I think widespread use of Extended memory came later.




>
> Here is a line from my config.sys: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
>
> You will not have failed to notice the NOEMS parameter.
>
> Anyway the guess here is that the modifications we suggested to you last
> week worked fine . . . until you shut down and restarted. Now you're
> working with _no_ EMS again.
>
> Indeed, when you do, the X will appear on a file longer than, say,
> "Hello, my name is Legion."
>
> Hope this helps.

fwiw,


Russ