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Re: We should move en masse to Nota Bene

Yes, I believe in financially supporting Nota Bene. I'm using Xy4 now under
Parallels Workstation ($50 as I recall), and it works fine but there's that
conceptual confusion I wrote about.




Jon

I suppose as Carl suggested recently, we all have to make our own pact
with the devil. XY4 is wonderful if you can live and work within it
completely but if you have to deal with an outside world that wants work
delivered in MS Word format and loves the internet, then life becomes much
more complicated.


I agree that XY4 is extremely elegant and economical but I believe NB10
has the potential to become a simple, elegant solution too. I have
already shifted to NB9 for virtually all my work and will probably adopt
NB10 from now on.


It is going to be a struggle to maintain XY4 if one is going to move to
new platforms. Personally I still use XP and see no urgent need to change
but others obviously have good reasons for upgrading (at least I hope they do).


There is, of course, a certain satisfaction in the perversity of
maintaining XY4, against all odds; I've tried various virtual solutions
such as MS Virtual PC2007 and VWWare player to see what they have to
offer. The former is certainly workable though I found things (though I
cannot offhand remember exactly what) that turned me against it. VMWare
player 5 provide a beautiful solution for running say Windows 98 or
Windows 2000, both of which can be used to run XY very nicely but file
sharing has to be managed via network tools which is cumbersome. DOS on
either of them is much less satisfactory, too.


It is a lot of work, but maybe it can be done. On the other hand NB will
also be a lot of work, but maybe at the end it too will provide a
solution. It costs money, I think it is $99 for NB10 if you buy it at
this beta stage, but all those $99 go towards paying the couple of
programmers who are valiantly trying to bring XY4 into the twenty-first
century.


Ah well.

Paul

On 21/12/2012 07:35, Jon P wrote:


Let's cut to the chase.

I want to use XY4. I don't want to spend $$ for Notabene, particularly if
it still needs to be tweaked.


My XY4 works in DOSBox, but limited to two windows and import from www to
XY without export from XY to www.



I suspect that with some help XY4 would work in Microsoft Virtual PC
2007. XY is an incredibly elegant and economical program and the U2
additions make it phenomenal, eternal thanks to Carl and Robert, and
TAMEDos has been helpful in the past.


The "upgrade" to Win 7 is via DOSbox and it works if you can handle only
two windows and WWW-->XY import but not the reverse. There is probably
ali also a solution via Virtual PC 2007k, which M$ has kept available.


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx

Windows 8...who knows?


JP