Another thing that any history of Xy should include is the fact that the III+ manual was the absolutely BEST piece of computer documentation that has ever been written (IMHO).AMEN!Some years later, I recall a fellow member of the EFA, who had been using Word, got an editing project from Leslie at CUP, and had to learn Xy. She did so in no time flat.Yet, ironically in the late 80s the rap on Xy was: too step a learning curve. Harry Binswanger hb@xxxxxxxx