Re: Expanded memory

[Judith Davidsen jdavidsen@xxxxxxxx]

It was me whose Xywrite memory properties says "The computer is not configured for expanded
memory in MS-Dos sessions. Details: Third-party memory-managment software has not been configured
for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded
memory."

On Sunday, June 18, Robert Orndorff made the following suggestion about expanded memory:

"If you have a CONFIG.SYS file, add the following two lines to the very top of the
file........"

device=c:\windows\command\himem.sys
device=c:\windows\command\emm386.exe auto

"Once you make the changes, then reboot, and then you have expanded memory support!"

In today's message, Orndorff says:

"My old suggestion should still work, although it is redundant in Win98.

"Chances are that this person can rename (backup, delete) the CONFIG.SYS file so Windows
doesn't see it anymore, and everything should work.

"They could also "rem" out the himem.sys and emm386.exe lines of the
config.sys."

The way I read this, I should add the lines to config.sys and then rem them out, or add the lines to
config.sys and then hide config.sys from Windows by backing itup and deleting the original. Is this
correct?


device=c:\windows\command\emm386.exe auto



Thanks

Judith Davidsen


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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 06:59:47 -0400
From: "Robert Orndorff" 
Reply-To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx

On 17 Jun 2000, at 1:41, Judith Davidsen wrote:
>
> I think this may have gotten lost in the shuffle of U2 glitches earlier this week.
>
> When I checked my Xywrite properties, I learned that:
> >
> > "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-Dos sessions. Details: Third-party memory-managment software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory."
> >
If the brain trust on this list determines that you need expanded memory,
here's how you do it. No third party software is required, it is actually
accomplished the same way you do it in DOS.

If you have a CONFIG.SYS file, add the following two lines to the very top of the file. If you
don't have a config.sys, then make one consisting of these two lines:

device=c:\windows\command\himem.sys
device=c:\windows\command\emm386.exe auto

Once you make the changes, then reboot, and then you have expanded memory support!

The config.sys file should be located in the root dir of your c: drive, ie C:\CONFIG.SYS.

The "auto" parameter information (From the win95 resource kit helpfile located on your
win95 cd in \admin\reskit\helpfile\win95rk.hlp. Auto seems to be the easiest way to go, there are
many other parameters available.

on|off|auto
Activates the EMM386 device driver (if set to on), or suspends the EMM386 device driver (if set to
off), or places the EMM386 device driver in auto mode (if set to auto). Auto mode enables
expanded-memory support and upper memory block support only when a program calls for it. The default
value is on. Use the emm386 command to change this value after EMM386 has started.
--
-Robert Orndorff
Richmond, VA

http://www.rmonet.com

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®OF0DI,0DI¯®RM78DI¯Subject: Re: Expanded memory
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:14:17 +0900
From: Wolfgang Bechstein 
Reply-To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx

Judith Davidsen  wrote:


I think the above message could mean that there is some third-party memory management software
installed on your computer (a laptop, right? Maybe something put there by the manufacturer?) but
that this software hasn't been set up to provide expanded memory. In the absence of such software,
Windows installs its own memory-management software, a program called EMM386.EXE located in the
Windows directory. Do you have the docs for your laptop? Anything in there about bundled software?
Or else call the manufacturer, and tell them about the above problem. Your best bet probably is to
get rid of the
third-party software and let Windows handle memory by itself.

> Harry seemed to think I don't need expanded memory. Is this
> the consensus?

I'd think that to use XyWrite fully, you need expanded memory. Otherwise out-of-memory messages when
doing things such as spell checking large files (especially using personal dictionaries) and quite
possibly other glitches are bound to crop up.

Please note that all of the above are mere guesses on my part.

Wolfgang Bechstein
wolfie@xxxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: Expanded memory
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:26:10 EST
From: Robert Holmgren 
Reply-To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx

** Reply to note from xywrite@xxxxxxxx Sun, 18 Jun 2000 06:59:47 -0400

> If the brain trust on this list determines that you need expanded memory, here's how you do it.... SNIP... (From the win95 resource kit helpfile located on your win95 cd in \admin\reskit\helpfile\win95rk.hlp.

That's in W95 (which seems to configure EMS automatically anyway). Can you do the same thing in
W98? Are HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE provided as part of the OS?

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Robert Holmgren
holmgren@xxxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: Expanded memory
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:42:14 -0400
From: "Robert Orndorff" 
Reply-To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx

On 23 Jun 2000, at 6:50, Robert Holmgren wrote:
> I'm trying to understand the error message (from afar):
>
> > "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in
> > MS-Dos sessions. Details: Third-party memory-managment
> > software has not been configured for expanded memory.
> > Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to
> > enable expanded memory."
>
> How do you explain this?
OK, I was wrong before... Here is the real scoop on Win98 and expanded memory. From the Win98
resource kit on the Win98 CD \tools\reskit\help\rk98book.chm
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Note:
Windows 98 automatically provides expanded memory for MS-DOS-based applications that require it to
run. Windows cannot provide this memory, however, if you include a statement in Config.sys that
loads Emm386.exe with the noems parameter. When you include Emm386.exe in Config.sys, use the ram
parameter or use the x=mmmm-nnnn statement to allocate enough space in the upper memory area for
Windows 98 to create an EMS page frame
=======

So this person apparently has some third party memory manager installed that specifically excludes
expanded memory. OR they have a leftover config.sys from a previous OS that excludes expanded
memory.

My old suggestion should still work, although it is redundant in Win98.

Chances are that this person can rename (backup, delete) the CONFIG.SYS file so Windows doesn't see
it anymore, and everything should work.

They could also "rem" out the himem.sys and emm386.exe lines of the config.sys.
-- -Robert Orndorff Richmond, VA

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