Msg: RE: Xy4 & NB

Jordan,

MS Word can import PDF files, but not always perfectly. PDF script is very complex and originally intended to drive printers. It became popular and evolved, but kept some of its original idiosyncrasies while becoming infinitely more complicated.

For editing PDF files I have three recommendations Nero (free demo), Full Nero, and PDF Creator. Nero is great, but pricey. The demo version is also nice, old, and with fewer features; Still pretty darned good though.

I’d recommend a trial of PDFCreator’s modular editing stuff. It’s the most cost-effective and written by people who know their was around in a PDF.

There’s also a free Windows 10 app called Xodo. It can do a lot of things with PDF files, but not everything. You can cut text from it into other programs and do various kinds of markups.

Please note: If a PDF file has been ‘flattened’ when it was saved, there won’t be much you can get out of it.

As for HTML, it’s the scripting language standard used by web pages. It also encompasses stuff like XML. Link to the W3C: https://www.w3.org/ Everything you’ll ever need to know about HTML is documented there.

Please note that MS Word can also read and write sever flavors of XML and HTML plus .docs and some universal editor formats.

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There are so many PDF apps out there that it is hard to keep track. Per my exposure to them, most were not very good. True editing functionality with PDF is elusive. Have you used CAD-KAS ?

Wasn't NB supposed to have added PDF import / "export as" features ? I have the current sub-version of NB 11, but have not noticed any such feature. Then again, I don't reach for NB all that often.

In regard to HTML, I have a minimal knowledge of it (or editing it), but have successfully used Kompozer (around for a long time and free) to stumble my way along with it. It gets the job done, anyway.

Jordan

From: Philip White
To: "xywrite@xxxxxxxx"
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 1:58 AM
Subject: RE: Xy4 & NB

Flash,

To Print from ANYTHING into PDF format, PDFCreator is the best I’ve seen. I’ve been using it for years and can’t find a better or cheaper one.

The basic version is free, and has the functionality to do everything ever needed in PDF output. Beyond the free version, there's a low priced-paid version with a bunch of modular add-ons that permit editing the PDFs.

This is the download link for PDFCreator: ; originalsrc="http://www.pdfforge.org/PDFCREATOR/DOWNLOAD

MS Word can be used in a fully hands-on manner, although I prefer using my mouse for moving the cursor. It has many editing modes, including an outline mode and an editable WYSIWYG. It can also save the files in a considerable number of formats straight out of the box.

MS Word, coupled with OneNote for versatile reference storage is a formidable combination.

While it is not XyWrite, it is a powerful word processor. If you haven’t done so recently, you can download a free trial at the Microsoft.

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From: xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx on behalf of Flash
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 1:30:17 AM
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Xy4 & NB

Thanks for the review. That pretty much kills the NB route for many of us, especially those who are still attached to Xy3.

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On 20 Apr 2018, at 05:37, frank brownlow mailto:fbrownlo@xxxxxxxx wrote:

I am not nearly as savvy a user as most of you. I’m just a scholar-writer. I use NB as a Windows version of XY4, which is what it is, with a few changes and a few bells and whistles that are sometimes useful, but not all that often. It leaves a good deal to be desired, and as a word-processor is no improvement on XY4—or even Signature. Since we no longer have the printf command, we have to use something like PDF factory Pro to make .pdfs instead of Adobe’s Distiller, and so can’t use XY4’s fully scaleable types. Embedding fonts is a pain in the neck, too, and as for moving from NB to, say, HTML, forget it.

I would love to have a new, Windows-based Xy4, but I’m not expecting one, and believe me, NB, although rather pricey, isn’t it.