Wally,I have one of the 5.1 versions that works for me (different versions of 5.1 vary in odd ways). Will send it to you privately. If you decide to stick with it, pay David Thomas the $25 (at www.tame.com).Regards, HarryI have a license for tame, and would like to try version 5.1, which some have said is relatively good. Unfortunately, that version isn't on their web site. Is there someone out there with that version that could send me a copy. TIA Wally BassHarry Binswanger hb@xxxxxxxx