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Re: VirtualBox: Can't start VM - Followup



Hi Paul, in VMware settings you can establish a fixed screen resolution,
which may be the ticket. I will experiment. However, there is this
dilemma: while you really need something like VGA or super VGA to make
full screen XyWrite look great (so it seems to me), Windowed XyWrite
looks better the higher your resolution is. I will continue experimenting
because I want to get back to the full-screen capability on the theory it
might be psychologically beneficial to have only that one screen visible.


Only one screen visible? No other windows visible?

Well, there must be something profound to it, psychologically speaking, or Microsoft would never have done what seemed so totally inexplicable in Windows 8, make the default style for new apps to be full-screen only.

Furthermore, there is a real sense that, because of smartphones, we are, preferentially, regressing back to full-screen 'thinking'.

I have always been one to embrace as many open windows and tabs as possible, but the fact is that I don't like to concentrate on any one thing for very long, so this technical capability impedes my concentration by making it so easy for me to wander and dither.

We really do seem to be stepping backwards. I remember being thrilled with my pre-Internet banking app, and appalled by my post-Internet banking webpage. Now, with the smartphone version, I am back to the uncluttered simplicity of the pre-webpage application. It's an interesting trend, and it seems to be unstoppable, as nobody wants to use a phone that is large enough to make multiple simultaneous windows possible.

The other possibility is to enlarge the XyWrite window to the maximum possible area, and then figure out a way to black out the rest of the screen. One of the problems Carl does not have to face, having stuck to his ten year old monitor, is that nearly all monitors sold today are ultra-wide, with an aspect ratio around 16:9, rather than the old 4:3 (or 16:12)

I would aver that these wider aspect ratios impede word processing, because for word processing you need a fully portrait screen orientation, since increased line length impedes comprehension. (Something around 66 characters per line seems to be ideal.) The last thing you want, perfectly possible to arrange with XyWrite or any other word processor, is lines that go the full width of one of the new wide-aspect-ratio landscape screens.

At 28/07/2014 23:49, you wrote:
Bill, sorry I missed the email prior to the one I replied to, and I now realize you have VMware. A quick look online suggests that there isn't a scaled mode. It might be worth a try with Vbox again, depending on your needs and desires.

I would point out, though, as I said earlier, that what Carl's and my screenshots show is not a true fullscreen.

I wonder if you would get XyWrite fullscreen in your VMware setup if you degraded your video resolution to the old VGA dimensions?

Paul
On 07/28/2014 06:10 PM, Paul Lagasse wrote:
Are you using Virtualbox or VMware?

In Vbox I would establish Scaled Mode first by using Host-C, or Right-CTRL+C by default, or using the View pulldown menu to select Scaled Mode, then try ALT-Enter.

Be sure that you have the current Virtualbox additions installed. Every time Vbox is upgraded to a new version, they need to be reinstalled.

I no longer have a functioning VMware setup, so don't know what might be the equivalent there, if anything,

Paul
On 07/28/2014 05:39 PM, Bill Troop wrote:
Paul, is there some way for me to enter full screen other than pressing Alt-Enter? Doing that gives me the mini-full-screen which I don't like. Honestly, I'm happy enough with the top-to-bottom-XyWindow, but I would like to experiment with full screen if it were possible to get it to work. Hasn't full screen always been a challenge with laptops for some reason? (I am on a laptop.) - - B

At 28/07/2014 22:02, you wrote:
Carl and all,

I think I know what's going on. It's not really a true fullscreen, because the window title bar and the taskbar are visible. I believe this is Scaled Mode (activated thru a menu or with RightControl-C, AKA Host-C) with XyWrite fullscreen. I can achieve something similar in Ubuntu; see Fullscreen-Xy4-in-VBox-Scaled-mode.jpg.

True fullscreen mode (RightControl-F, AKA Host-F)  produces a dismal XyWrite with ALT-Enter,  see Fullscreen-Xy4-in-VBox-Fullscreen-mode.jpg.


On 07/28/2014 04:14 PM, Carl Distefano wrote:
Bill:

If you can achieve fullscreen, which is what you want, that's OK, but you should find it easy to make any VM (that is, W2K and higher) any size you want.

Makes sense; I need to play with that. After I discovered full screen, though, I was also somehow able to make windowed XyWrite bigger. I must say that, although I'm elated about getting full screen, I'm nervous about the fact that I don't quite know *how* I got it, other than at some point hitting Alt-Enter. One of the side effects of doing so was to change the resolution of the virtual Win 7 desktop from whatever it was down to 800x600. This appears to be related, and may even be a sine qua non, for getting a full-screen DOS session. It's a little disconcerting because all of this happened without my consciously changing any settings. I'd really like to identify the necessary steps and settings so that I can replicate it on other machines. A quick search of the VirtualBox user forums did not provide much enlightenment. It seems that other people have stumbled on this phenomenon, but so far I haven't found a step-by-step procedure for achieving it. And I confess I haven't yet cracked the VBox documentation.

Does lag decrease in fullscreen?

No, when I experienced the lag, it was about the same in a window and full screen. But the lag substantially disappeared in both window and full screen after I rebooted the VM. And I've rebooted the VM several times since then, and the lag has not come back. When I'm typing in full-screen, I can barely tell the difference from Xy running full-screen under WinXP.