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Re: Dosemu practically full-screen

Rafe, I found this online but haven't had the chance to check it out;
this is verbatim with my emendations in brackets:


15. TrueType fonts in X

If you use Sarge, it is relatively easy to use TrueType fonts, for
example from the packages ttf-bitstream-vera, ttf-freefont or
msttcorefonts in X. These fonts can now be administrated through defoma,
the Debian Font Manager. All you need to do is to install the package
x-ttcidfont-conf:


apt-get install x-ttcidfont-conf

Afterwards you add a line for the TrueType directory to the Files
section of the X configuration file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, preferrably
directly above all other FontPath entries:


FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"

[note: the above path/file (/etc/X11...) does not exist in Ubuntu 12.04.
Fontpaths for X are listed in /etc/X11/fs/config, as far as I can tell;
there is a section here for listing fontpaths. Interestingly, the defoma
path is not listed, but I have access to fonts from defoma. I think
these comments hold for 12.10 as well IIRC]



16. Installing your own TrueType fonts

In Debian, fonts can be managed by defoma, the Debian Font Manager. It
registers the Fonts to applications which tell defoma how to do this
using a plugin. Examples are gs, fontconfig and also x-ttcidfont-conf
which in turn makes the fonts available to X (see Tip 15). The advantage
is that is sufficient to register the fonts to defoma, which will take
care of the rest of the configuration. Here is a short walkthrough on
how to do it:


First you copy all your TrueType fonts to a suitable directory, for
example /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype. Next you create a so called
hints file for defoma which contains informations about the fonts. You
do this using the defoma-hints program. Make sure that the libft-perl
package is installed. After that you can create the hints file:


defoma-hints -c --no-question truetype \
/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/* \
> /etc/defoma/hints/ownfonts.hints

Now you register this file to defoma:

defoma-font register-all /etc/defoma/hints/ownfonts.hints

The last thing you have to do is to apply the new configuration. The
quickest way is to call


defoma-reconfigure

It updates the fonts database for all registered applications. To use
the new fonts in your current X session, run


xset fp rehash

--from http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html.en#a15

Rafe, I don't know whether mkfontdir and xset fp rehash are necessarily
needed. I didn't need need to use either when I copied the files from
12.04 to 12.10 (the defoma directory files). The caveat is that there
was already a font.dir file (the product of running mkfontdir) and a
fonts.scale file (don't think mkfontdir will produce this; mkfontscale
will and does as well what mkfontdir does, but it doesn't seem to
operate on TTF files from what I read). But xset fp rehash was clearly
unneeded, in the sense that I did not run it myself after copying the
fonts to 12.10. I know this contradicts what is said just above.


I tried copying my old defoma font files from 8.04 to 12.04, putting
them in an appropriate X11 directory (not a defoma directory); they
already have fonts.dir and fonts.scale files, so I didn't worry about
mkfontdir or mkfontscale (a mistake perhaps); the folder also has
encodings.dir and fonts.alias files. I ran xset fp rehash, but saw no
changes when I looked in the results of xlsfonts etc, though the same
command shows DejaVu (one of the fonts in 8.04 and 12.04) in 8.04. So I
spent I little time doing a little more online research, and came up
with the above description of how to use defoma. It looks promising, but
I won't be playing with it for a while, so I thought I'd pass it on in
case it interests you.


Paul


On 12/04/2012 08:07 AM, Raphael wrote:



Paul --

Is it possible that the missing step involves mkfontdir and xset fp
rehash? Not that I really understand what those involve, but I've come
across references in preparing fonts for X.


It would be great if we could really figure this out and document it.
For one thing, when I was playing around, I came across some pretty
compelling-looking fonts -- like a Courier 12, I think. (In my case,
they weren't completely usable out of the box, because they
substituted some of the XyWrite borders with things like accented
characters -- but I think that's something I *think* I could fix
within Xy, if I can remember how.) As windowed Xy, they promised to be
very handsome, and even if they aren't scalable, if one could specify
the correct size, you could create an all-but-full-screen Xy -- that
is, a Xy window which occupied the entire screen but still allowed
full access to the Linux desktop.


Does x-ttcidfont-conf create the new font from the original ttf file?
My dosemu fonts, which are in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/dosemu, all
end in *.pcf.gz -- I guess these come out-of-the-box and prepped for
dosemu. But there are in /usr/share/fonts altogether 1149 of these,
and since one can apparently make use of several dozen of these
without strain -- why not?


With that in mind -- when you toyed with your screen font sizes, was
it just trying out various sizes? In my limited experimentation the
other day, I tried substituting proportional values, somewhat as you
had suggested for Andale-Mono, but I didn't have much luck.


In a way, the fact that tools such as defoma have not been deprecated
might be a good sign for dosemu down the road. I don't really
understand what Wayland is going to do -- I guess eventually it will
displace X, or a lot of parts of it -- but if it's still important for
Debian to preserve these somewhat arcane packages, you'd have to see
it as a pretty good sign that the possibility for DOS emulation will
remain for quite some time.


-Rafe

On 12/03/2012 10:31 PM, Paul Lagasse wrote:


Rafe,

On 12/03/2012 09:24 AM, Raphael wrote:


Are you happy with the result?



Yes, I am, but I am used to using a windowed Xy4.



Having said that, just playing around with the nonscaling xfonts
that are available makes me curious to try the MS fonts out.
However, I'd actually be more interested in the explanation than
copying your fixed setup or trying it out blind -- I was getting
ready to escalate to the dosemu listserv -- for one thing, I really
want to know why these fonts never seem to register on my system,
and I'm quite curious how you worked through it



Years ago, in 10.04 I'm pretty sure, I lost Deja Vu and other fonts
that I was used to having available for Dosemu. I did a lot of
reading online about making fonts available to X, and tried out xfs
(X font server) and defoma (debian font manager) and somehow
somewhere along the way I may have picked up access to Andale Mono
(or it may have had nothing to do with me -- I was stumbling around
without a lot of knowledge). But in any case, I revisited xfs and
defoma on Sunday, and did some reading online again, and discovered
where defoma's directories were, which I'd never known before. In
/var/lib/defoma's subdirectories I discovered x-ttcidfont-conf.d
(folder), whose subcontents included a link to Andale Mono and
fonts.scale and fonts.dir files with references similar to:


Andale_Mono.ttf -monotype-andale
mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-2


I knew that these fonts.* files were important to making the fonts
available to X from my earlier and recent reading, but that's the sum
of my knowledge, except that lines like the above were the sort of
output I was looking for when I ran xlsfonts ....|sort|uniq>
scalable_fonts. So I figured that here, in /var/lib/defoma, was where
I was getting my 12.04 Andale Mono for Dosemu from (from previous
rooting around in /usr/share/fonts I knew that I'd never found the
right fonts.* files there). I guess that in installing 12.04 over
10.04 I'd retained access to Andale Mono that I'd acquired in 10.04,
which may be why I have it in 12.04 and you don't.


So, in 12.10 I installed defoma and x-ttcidfont-conf, which recreated
the directory structure of /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d, but
did not recreate the link to Andale Mono or the fonts.* files. So I
went with my other option, which was to copy from one computer to the
other the defoma files, via a defoma.tar.gz file, replacing all the
contents of /var/lib/defoma in 12.10 (the directory structure that
the defoma etc installation had created in 12.10 was the same, but
with fewer folders and no files). And things worked.


I've since recalled that on my wife's portable I'd left 8.04
installed alongside 10.04 when I upgrade her machine, and looking
there today discovered in /var/lib/defoma/... links to DejaVu and
other fonts I used to have. I don't know if I can incorporate or
somehow use the settings from 8.04 to access DejaVu in Dosemu again,
but I've compressed her old /var/lib/defoma directory for playing
with at sometime in the future.


Paul