Re: Xywrite antiques

[Richard Giering dick.giering@xxxxxxxx]

In General I agree with your assessment about NB not taking into account the
desires of a significant subscriber base - XYWriters - in the effort for
SWS. They appear to be responsive primarily (albeit
not exclusively) to the subscribers of their other products, e.g. Lingua,
etc.
 I would like to suggest something with regard to your comments about the
Keyboard. As an XYWrite user I have a very personal ketyboard (XW.KBD) that
I have modified to use hot keys with quite a few XPL programs plus the use
of Diacritics (umlauts) on other hot keys. I load it in NBWIN by using the
load command in NBstart.int and find it works most satisfactorily. I
suggest you do the same with your XYWin keyboard.
Dick Giering

yesss@xxxxxxxx wrote:

> I logged on recently for the first time since early
> February, so pls excuse this very belated response.
>
> ≪ Many XyWrite users have purchased Nota Bene, but
> frankly, I am surprised that there haven't been more. ≫
> --Anne Putnam  Fri, 18 May 2001
>
> A good part of the time I was offline I was
> immersed for the first time in xyWin and nbWin
> (I compare first impressions of both products with
> NoteTab at http://www.escape.com/~yesss/_x45w4nt.htm).
>
> I'm very kindly disposed toward NB the company,
> Anne, and wish it nothing but the best. In that
> spirit, and in the wake of my recent experience,
> *I* must admit surprise that NB apparently considers
> that, with xyWrite development now history, xyWrite
> and NB software user proclivities have become the same.
>
> NB seems to be attuned to NB software users' needs
> and the gentle users seem perfectly content to go
> along with whatever interface NB the developer thinks
> best. xyWrite users prize above all else software
> we ourselves can bend to our diverse needs.
>
> To presume that a product with a hard-coded keyboard,
> e.g., would "provide what many of you are looking for"
> reveals a basic misperception and proves that--when
> what we already have meets basic needs and is so
> user-configurable to meet new ones--we are rightly
> skeptical about new-software promises. The offer
> of a "free xyWrite keyboard" gave a hint of
> reduced flexibility, but I couldn't have imagined
> an apparently binary-mapped xyWrite-family kbd.
>
> ≪ Well, I do have to admit that NB is a Windows program. ≫
>
> Uh ... xyWrite for Windows leaves the kbd almost
> entirely free for user remapping. It comes as
> no shock that I must disengage my treasured,
> otherwise-universal Windows kbd remapper KR
> http://linux.kurt.hu/marczi/welcome.html to
> use either xyWin or nbWin, but when I do that
> to load nbWin I sacrifice virtually all Windows kbd
> freedom. When I load xyWin, my kbd is locked to cua
> only in other Windows apps.
>
> While I was unable to vanquish the seemingly hard-coded
> kbd, I easily reclaimed all those user &ldpms the NB
> overlay seizes. U1s are in effect U2 files that belong
> to the developer. Instead of using one, in this case
> the developer coopted user options. I quickly shuffled
> all that &ldpm code to a U1, which admittedly isn't
> debugged. I just wanted my &ldpms back and have no
> incentive to debug the code; debugging shouldn't take
> much longer than transferring xpl and turning labels
> into frame names did.
>
> I didn't stop there. I also retrieved the $[A-Z/0-9]
> options missing from xyWin as well and for all I know
> from Signature and all its progeny. I explain how I did
> this stuff at http://www.escape.com/~yesss/_x45xpl.htm,
> a page that also discusses nbWin's evil default.lib file
> and other nbWin problems I *didn't* solve, e.g., U2 xpl
> that xyWin runs uneventfully and that chokes nbWin.
>
> ≪ And we are committed to continuing with ongoing
> development and support of what we think is the
> best word processor in the world! ≫
>
> I salute NB for that, and I'd like to further support
> development. If NB ever develops an interest in knowing
> what *xyWrite* users think would constitute the world's
> best word processor and responds accordingly, I'll be
> first in line to try it. Till then, when I want to use
> a Windows word processor I'll load xyWin, the most
> unfairly bad-mouthed app I know (all too often
> by people who never used it). ... Ciao.         --a
>
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