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Re: Apologies for redundant question here: How do I protect against total shutdown? -- I need the backup, restore process, etc.



I agree with Carl, or whoever said that he had not (won't say 'never', but almost) had to redo Windows from scratch.  That's cruel and unusual punishment: so many tiresome MS updates, dozens and dozens of apps (a great many of which I would certainly miss, and some of which cannot be reinstalled for various reasons), so much user customization.  This could take up a couple weeks by itself, getting little else accomplished. 

I've just never had much faith in cloud-based solutions.  (O.K. as an adjunct, but not on its own.)  I backup data and some other things piecemeal to flash drives and external hard drives, but also periodically image the boot drive, in my case using Acronis TI.  In view of things like the EternalBlue / Wannacry exploit that just spread panic around the world the other day, I should probably be doing this for each important computer more often than every few months, as I have been doing.  I also have used Acronis to physically clone entire drives, from time to time.  That way I have an immediately bootable, tested, drop-in replacement.  The images probably have a well over 99.5% success rate for restores, but this provides another level of fallback.  Hard drives are not that expensive an item these days, and my potential downtime makes this worth it to me. 

   Jordan


From: Michael Norman
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: Apologies for redundant question here: How do I protect against total shutdown? -- I need the backup, restore process, etc.

Forgive the rudimentary, but imaging seems like your answer, which to say getting a program like ShadowProtect Desktop (Mendelson’s favorite) or Acronis True image or one of the other applications that make a barebones image of your hard-disk, which you can save on an external drive or LAN NAS and recover either through windows (if you can get to it in safe mode) or a recovery disk (which the programs can make for you). That will return the system to a previous state (which you determine) and restore everything including WIN settings, drivers and so on.
 
FYI and for what it’s worth, I daily back up all my DATA to both an NAS and a cloud (I use SOS). Then, two weeks ago or so when the April WIN 7 updates came out and, after installing them, my machine rebooted itself several times after an install, which gave me pause and heartburn (later I read this was sequelae others had experienced and did not damage the system) I decided that backing up just DATA was not enough. I’m in the middle of a book and plan to stay with my rig and opsys until six months after it’s published, so I’m adding ShadowProtect Desktop to my backup routine. Think of it as a safety net for your system.
 
Michael Norman
 
 
  
 
From: xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx [mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maben W. Poirier
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:51 PM
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Apologies for redundant question here: How do I protect against total shutdown? -- I need the backup, restore process, etc.
 
Why not just make a regular backup of all of your important files on a memory stick?  That way, if you lose the latest writing or writings if something goes wrong, you will only lose that, and you will be able to pick up from where you left off.
 
M. W. Poirier
 

From: mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx on behalf of Jay Mcnally mailto:jaymcnally@xxxxxxxx
Sent: 13 May 2017 11:02
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Apologies for redundant question here: How do I protect against total shutdown? -- I need the backup, restore process, etc.
 
Guys,
 
I had a big scare yesterday that is forcing me to finally create the backup/restore process to protect my computer.  I'm embarrassed to come at you with this elementary question that I think has been aswered here a thousand times over the last 15 or 20 years.
 
How do I protect against total shutdown where I lost all data and have to re-install all my programs?   I think there may be new processes that make it easier than in the past.
 
My "new" HP Envy 700/400 PC has been working perfectly for about 2.5 years since it, with the generous advice of Carl and Kari on what I needed. Thus, I never made the "restore disk" or the "reboot disk," even though I have had a new 16-Gig flash drive sitting here that last six months to do this very thing.
 
Yesterday the predictable terrifying error message that said something like:  "Oops, looks like your system didn't shut down correction and might need to be RESTORED."  Thankfully there were "options" that included creating a backup.
 
So, with the help of my son I was able to make the official HP "backup," and rebooted successfully by removing the power cord for a few minutes, then starting the machine normally.
 
But is probably only a question of time before the system totally breaks down and I have to erase and re-install the system.
 
Quick question:
 
Can someone link to me the message or the latest process that works?
 
 
I'm deeply grateful for all assistance.
 
Jay McNally