Re: XYWin hogs CPU

[Paul Breeze paul.breeze@xxxxxxxx]

Dear Harry
Maybe the missing Winkey causes some of the toggling problems.
Unfortunately I don't have an alternative available at present to test
it with.
As for two launches of Tame-Xy, it isn't two launches. One is the
normal XY window and the second is the tame console. I suspect that one
is not supposed to see both, only the tame console, but under certain
circumstances both do appear, here anyway. That is, in my opinion, the
root of the toggling problem. Though the original XY screen may not
normally be visible it still exists and the toggling finds it.
I can probably live with the toggling issue. What is more concerning to
me at the moment is that I cannot launch a full screen Tame console with
my desired screen length. I have no trouble using Tame and getting it
to support 25, 28, 43 and 50 lines. What I do have trouble with is
being able to set these up to launch automatically. The closest I can
get at present is launching 50 lines in full screen, switching to
windowed mode and then back to full screen. The latter is then the Tame
50 line console. However even with this I cannot find a way to
automatically get rid of the mouse pointer when typing. I have to
select if from the Tame menu every time; 'save settings on exit' does
not work for me. Does it work for you?
With Tame 6.0 (which I assume must be the same as your 5.1, though it
calls itself 6 on the website and when installed) I have to start with a
25 line window and then manually set the window size for the different
size I want. Again I cannot find a way to save settings, nor to use the
configuration files to change anything. Perhaps you can tell me how you
launch XY4 into 43 lines and I'll see if it works here.

Best wishes

Paul

Harry Binswanger wrote:
> Paul,
> > 3. I use a circa 1990 IBM model M keyboard which does not possess a
> > Winkey. I'm sure that isn't the problem, however. Alt-Tab works fine
> > everywhere else.
> I think that keyboard is the problem. Tame wants the Winkey. Perhaps you
> borrow a keyboard with that key to try it out.
> > I'm sure this is a Tame problem. If I launch XY4, windowed, using Tame
> > 5.0 having set the line length to anything but 25 lines (I'm trying 28
> > and 43 and 50, all of which work under Windows 2000, setting the screen
> > size in the shortcut properties and in XY so that it sticks both
> > windowed and full screen) I get two console windows one on top of the
> > other. With 25 lines this does not happen once the properties for the
> > window are set for 25 lines but I suspect both are there, one on top
> > of the other. Once there are these two consoles, then a multitude of
> > problems then arise. I can get reliable operation -- sort of -- using
> > 25 or 50 lines and starting full screen. However with all settings,
> > when you Alt-Tab between applications, having invoked the Tame
> > pseudo-full screen you go from the full-screen-Tame-XY4 to the taskbar
> > and then to the next application.
> This is all a mystery to me. Two launches of Tame-Xy when there should
> be one?!
> > In addition, starting full screen, I have to Alt-Enter to a windowed
> > version and then Alt-Enter back to full screen in order to get the Tame
> > screen fonts.
> >
> > The other version on the website, Tame 6, appears to hate anything but
> > 25 lines too.
>
> I use 5.1 with 43 lines very successfully.
> > You have to start with 25 and then set a new size once
> > you have launched. I want full screen XY4 with more than 25 lines but
> > without having a struggle to reach it. At the moment I can find no easy
> > way of achieving this with Tame.
> You are counting the two or three lines in the command-line area, I
> assume? What does this show, when executed from the command-line:
> VA/NV $SL
> Mine shows 43.
>
>
>
> Harry Binswanger
> hb@xxxxxxxx