Bill, I too was glad to hear your report on W10. My W7 machine is approaching seven years old and I’m spending too much time away from work fixing various problems on it that come with age. So I’m considering a new box with an SSD and will now consider W10. Thanks for the report. Michael From: xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx [mailto:xywrite-bounce@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William TeBrake
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Subject: Re: Win10 upgrade news I realize of course that messages saying positive things about Windows 10 are not entirely welcome on this list, but here goes. The excessively long startup and shutdown times on my 6-year old 64-bit machine running Win 7 were drastically reduced by upgrading to Win 10. And on my 64-bit laptop running Win 8.1, the touch pad under Win 10 now plays nice with an attached mouse whether connected by USB or bluetooth. After 6 months of use, I have concluded that Windows 10 is perhaps the best Window OS I have ever used, at least as good a 7, once I disabled some of its tendencies to check in with the mother ship. Indeed, it's fair to say I no longer miss OS2 as I did for years after I switched to Windows. I have refused no updates so far, and I believe that they have actually helped to improve OS performance. I'm sure that Microsoft wants everyone to eventually update to 10 and probably, at some point, pay a subscription, but I don't necessarily see that as being somehow evil either. I am willing to pay for essential software that is actively supported. It's a solid product without the ugly appearance of 8.1 and has worked virtually flawlessly so far.
Cheers,
Bill TeBrake
UMaine History Emeritus On 5/26/2016 3:56 PM, Michael Norman wrote: Jordan, You’re right. My WIN7 machine is six+years old at this point, and I spend at least three-five hours a week chasing after this anomaly or that. BTW, turns out that GWX Control Panel and Never10 don’t get all the W10 updates M$ sends, tsunami-like, our way. Take a look here: http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/ Found seven of the updates on his list. Michael I think there are just inherent defects in most editions of Windows to date, some more serious than others, and some more luck of the draw depending on your particular history and configuration. I help out an XP user who has recurrent USB port / device recognition problems. The latest on that seems to be that the system keeps losing track of drive letter assignments. If that proves to be correct, it will be more on-the-spot fixable, but a continuing annoyance. 64-bit W7 can't reliably copy large files on its own without corruption, necessitating use of a third-party utility like TeraCopy. I have a couple W7 systems where Windows Update has ceased working, and just hangs interminably. There is a nice series of fix-it videos for this on YT, but so far none of them has solved this problem for me. I suppose I may have to try to uninstall / re-install Win Update. There even seems to be a KB expressly for this, but I would probably need to download it separately and try to apply it manually. (One incidentally good thing about this is that if no updates can get processed, all these sneaky, underhanded attempts by MS to slide W10 under the door can't get in either !) Your lengthy shutdowns seem like another such anomaly -- one I think I've seen before -- which may indicate that something is munged in the OS on that computer.
Thanks, Daniel.
I ran both Never10 and GWX Control Panel, both of which were easy to use and
seemed effective. As it turned out, I'd managed to avoid letting M$ install
any W10 components on my W7/64 Pro machine, which, in turn, suggested that
my long shut-downs had nothing to do with a lurking W10 process. I've tried
every protocol I could find - disabling services and programs with msconfig,
sweeping for malware. There's seems to be a lot of misinformation on this
problem (several normally reliable sites suggesting registry edits from on
XP -- keys that do not exist in Win7. "Stopping services" still takes 31
seconds. I think my next stop is Windows Performance Toolkit to try to find
out which process is taking so long. At all events, thanks again for the W10
blocking suggestions.
Michael
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