Interestingly, I recently tried to order Xy 4. The Technology Group order capability was down; and I left my e-mail address for someone to contact me. That was six months ago; no response to date. So much for e-commerce! Frank Heydenrych FHC (011) 608 1228 Fax (011) 608 1300 Cell 082 550 2797 Remote frankh@xxxxxxxx Web http://www.fhc.co.za≪application/ms-tnef≫