Msg: Re: Do we actually need XP support?

Thanks Paul, I'll check this out.

Jordan

From: Paul Lagasse
To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Do we actually need XP support?

Jordan,

Take a look at
http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2010/06/bring-your-windows-xp-pc-over-to-your-windows-7-pc-for-free-in-a-few-simple-steps.html

This might be the solution you need -- converting your XP setup to a
virtual machine. It will apparently handle the hardware conflicts,
though it's not clear from the comments at the site if it always works
or if it will result in need to reactivate Win XP. But if the tools are
still free (the info dates to 2010) it would seem worth a try.

There are other sites that discuss other methods, but this one is
tailored for VMware.

Paul Lagasse

On 03/26/2014 11:44 AM, J R FOX wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> There are quite a few programs for which I no longer have (or can't
> find) the install CDs. For example, an early version of Elements,
> a.k.a. PhotoShop Lite. (I have reasons for not wanting later
> versions.) I've made attempts to install or move programs like this,
> without having the CD, and I've seen that it's a non-starter.
>
> There is a video editor I like, more capable than most, that was a
> free-for-24-hours-only deal from the Giveaway of the Day site, which
> cannot be re-installed. There are actually more than a few free
> promotional programs I got from that site, such as InPaint, but that
> editor was one of the ones that does not get repeated periodically. I
> could buy new licenses for all of these things, but why should I have
> to ? There must be something like 50 video-related apps and utilities
> alone that are installed into this XP, plus a lot of apps in various
> other categories, and installing all that stuff back into a fresh XP
> VM would be a royal pain. If the MS. Ofc. suite can be slipstreamed
> into an XP install disc, along with all the accumulated security
> patches -- and I've heard of this being done -- then it should also be
> possible to do that for _this_ XP. If not, I'd just as soon take that
> box offline.
>
>
> Jordan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Bill Troop mailto:billtroop@xxxxxxxx
> *To:* xywrite@xxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Do we actually need XP support?
>
> Jordan, when you say that apps are not non-resinstallable do you
> also mean that they are non-executable? I can't think of many
> older apps that can't just be executed. For example, I never
> 'install' XyWrite when I move it to another system. I merely
> execute it.
>
> Some quite complex and more modern apps cannot be installed but
> can be executed. For example, PageMaker 7, or whatever the last
> version was, could not be installed, if I recall, in Windows
> Vista. Nevertheless, you could just run the program fine. This is
> also true of Adobe's invaluable ATM (Adobe Type Manager) on
> Win-7-32. (It may even be possible to run on Win-7-64???) (Haven't
> tried it on Win 8!)
>
> What are these apps? I'm sure there is some way of getting them to
> work.
>
> At 25/03/2014 23:51, you wrote:
>> This is really a problem then, in that a lot of my concern was
>> for retaining several non-reinstallable apps. That wouldn't do,
>> re building something up again from scratch. This seems to lead
>> me in the direction of slipstreaming a more loaded XP install
>> DVD, or attempting to spin off several apps into portable
>> versions. I have no prior experience with either, but guess I'll
>> just have to roll up my sleeves and explore this.
>>
>>
>> Jordan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Paul Lagasse mailto:pglagasse@xxxxxxxx
>> To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Do we actually need XP support?
>>
>> Jordan, I'm not an expert on this, but I don't think this
>> will work
>> smoothly, if I understand you correctly. While it is
>> straightforward to
>> convert an existing XP install disk to an ISO that can be
>> used to
>> install XP in a VM, trying to copy an existing XP
>> installation to an ISO
>> and use that installation in a virtual machine is bound to
>> lead to at
>> least some troubleshooting concerning networking and other
>> hardware
>> conflicts, and will no doubt result in a demand for
>> recertification from
>> XP. You might be better off installing XP to a VM and rebuilding
>> installation as a VM. The ISOs for the various service packs
>> should be
>> readily available on the internet.
>>
>> Paul Lagasse
>>
>> On 03/24/2014 11:40 PM, J R FOX wrote:
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if you have come across any insight into how
>> those ISOs
>> > were made ? As I mentioned previously, and for purposes
>> wholly
>> > unrelated to Xy, I still have an interest in possibly
>> turning my
>> > existing XP boot partition into just such a VMWare-ready,
>> Guest VM ISO.
>> >
>> >
>> > Jordan
>> >
>>
>
>