Kari, Well, this is all very interesting. (Also that you happened to recall the tri-cornered apps support that OS/2 enjoyed for a certain period.) As a certified dinosaur in several regards, I hasten to add that I have zero interest in the annual license, "software-as-a-service" model, and zero confidence in depending upon any cloud-based solutions. Ownership and 100 % localized control will continue to rule the day here, so long as I have any say in the matter. I stand by things I've said concerning the clunky, needlessly perplexing nature of UI in Linuxland. They need to make drastic improvements there, in order to take any big bite out of mainstream territory. Ideally, things need to reach a Win-7 or XP level of user transparency, accessibility, and resolving issues. In view of progress observed over the past few years, I am hopeful this may be possible. From one of those articles: "Microsoft's own Linux kernel is running on a thin version of the Hyper-V hypervisor." But I thought that Hyper-V was itself verboten for many systems? I know it was discussed here, but I'll need to go back and review past messages on what must be done, not done, or turned OFF in system, VBox rather than VMWare (?), etc. Nevertheless, I'd still like to see a Windows Xy-5 come out that reached the level of our aspirations -- or close to it. Jordan ------------- On Friday, October 2, 2020, 2:42:16 AM PDT, Kari Eveliwrote: Carl, The convergence of the two OS's is a fact, and Linux would be a better choice for the system's groundwork, if by groundwork we mean network connectivity and basic security features (my experience is that it is darn difficult to get Windows machines with different iterations of Windows even to exchange files over a home LAN). It is unfortunate that virtualization has not been built into the OS to support all MS-type applications seamlessly from DOS to 64-bit Windows (OS/2 developers had already the right idea). Maybe the Linux efforts will show the way toward this. Best regards, Kari Eveli LEXITEC Book Publishing (Finland) lexitec@xxxxxxxxxx - Carl Distefano wrote: > https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-based-windows-makes-perfect-sense/