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Re: Getting the right W2K version

Bill, the "hosting solution" to this might be to make the ISO available
on an if-requested basis via an emailed link to a personal Dropbox.


Some time ago, I downloaded two different ISOs, both proclaiming
themselves complete and final. I no longer know where it came from, but
one (the larger one, 594.3 MB) seems to be the version you are talking
about as the one that is needed. As it happens, I apparently chose to
use the smaller one (386.9 MB), which seems NOT to be the one you
suggest using. I can't recall why now, though I put some thought into
the choice IIRC, and only feel certain that I chose the smaller version
because it now has the product key incorporated into the name of the
ISO. It seems to work fine in Virtualbox as installed, but I installed
it as a curiosity only, since like Rafe I use Linux.


It does produce a "near" full screen for Xy4 in scaled mode (though not
in full screen mode), running W2K in Virtualbox in Ubuntu. In this mode
it runs as if it were a maximized Ubuntu app (which won't use all the
screen because of the way Ubuntu is set up). But it doesn't seem to have
the crisp look you have previously described.


Paul Lagasse

On 04/01/2014 07:17 AM, Bill Troop wrote:

Regarding my Easy Install project for W2K and VMware, I encountered a
slight hitch last night.


I had assumed that any ISO install disk of W2K that was marked SP4
would include the very latest and greatest.


The trouble-free ISO I used, which I downloaded from BitTorrent, is marked

"Windows 2000 SP4 Final 2011 Edition (all updates)"

I had not realized that 'all updates' is a very important qualifier.

By contrast, the SP4 version I was using from

http://winworldpc.com/library.shtml
http://winworldpc.com/library.shtml).


does /not/ contain all updates. I wanted to use this version because
it is hosted from an apparently reliable website and easy for anyone
to acquire.


But a version without all updates is a problem, because unless you
have all updates, VMware Tools for Windows, an essential add-on which
provides a new video driver for W2K, as well as various other
essential integration features, will not work. The security update has
to be installed from within W2K and that means endless trouble. You
don't have VMware tools, so you can't share with your host hard drive.
You therefore must download the update from the Internet. Problem is,
it never downloads from the MS site, using IE5. It says it will,
indeed it says it has done so, but it doesn't and hasn't. I had to
download it from my host, and then email it to myself on W2K, and
then, using Gmail, which doesn't look pretty in IE5 but does at least
work, execute it from within W2K.


The winworld version of W2K also requires a serial number. Well,
Google will easily find you one, but it is an extra step, and annoying.


All of this I regard as insupportable fuss.

So I am putting my project on hold and am going to see if I can
persuade the winworld people to accept the superior ISO of W2K I have.
I can do a version of my how-to that would be acceptable, but it would
require a reliable method of acquiring the preferred ISO for those who
don't want to take a chance on BitTorrent.


This raises some questions:

1. Would anyone here like to host a preferred W2K ISO?
2. What is the legal status of W2K?
2a. The practical legal status of W2K seems to be that MS simply
doesn't care.
2b. The information in 2c below, published by MS, appears to indicate
that MS itself is barred from selling or distributing W2K in any
manner due to the terms of a settlement with Sun.


2c. The following page contains some interesting information:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/ff723773.aspx?siteID=rGMTN56tf_w-ajjaEICDqIYhkNLWKyKfTw



which states:


   *"Products Unavailable due to Java-related Settlement*

Some products have been removed from Subscriber Downloads due to the
terms of Java-related settlements Microsoft made with Sun
Microsystems. These products are no longer available from Microsoft in
any form, but may be available through third-party resellers or Web sites.


These include (although not necessarily a comprehensive list):
Internet Explorer 5.5, Map Point 2002, Office 2000, Outlook 2000,
Project 2000, eMbedded Visual Tools 3.0, Visual Basic (Alpha Systems),
Visual Studio 6 MSDE, Visual Studio 6.0, Windows 98, Windows NT 4.0,
Back Office Server 2000, SQL Server 7, IIS 6.0, Office XP Developer,
Visio 2000, Exchange Server 2000, Exchange Server 5.5, FrontPage 2000
Server Extensions, Handheld PC 2000 SDK, Infrared Communications for
Windows 95 DDK, ISA Server 2000, MapPoint 2002, Office 2000, Office
97, Plus! 98, Project 2000, Site Server 3.0, Small Business Server
2000, SNA Server 4.0 Service Pack 3 & Service Pack 4, SQL Server 7.0,
System Management Server 2.0, System Stress for Windows 2000, System
Stress for Windows NT 4.0, Visio 2000, Visual Basic 5.0, Visual C++
(Alpha Systems), Visual FoxPro 6.0, Visual SourceSafe 6.0c & 6.0d,
Visual Studio 6.0, Windows 2000 DDK, Windows 2000 Professional,
Windows 2000 Server, Windows 98, Windows 98 DDK, Windows CE SDKs &
DDKs, Windows CE Toolkit for Visual C++ 6.0, Windows ME, Windows NT
4.0, Windows NT 4.0 DDK, Windows XP (32bit) SR2 Checked/Debug Build."


This appears to indicate that anyone who wants to use these products
by acquiring them from a "Web site" is now free to do so.