Avrom Fischer wrote:My experience about a month ago was that you could not get a new name brand pc with anything other than vistaYou can get a Vista box with "downgrade" rights to XP Pro. Most of the refurb XP boxes are sold woefully underpowered. You need to be sure you can add RAM to at least 1 G and add a discrete VGA card with at least 256 Mb RAM. XP Pro will crawl in anything less.-- Patricia M. Godfrey priscamg@xxxxxxxx