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RE: A very basic printing question re XY3



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Harry, I base my built-in altruism statement on recent anthropology studies. It's becoming clear that we evolved in small enough groups where helping one another was, in many or most cases, helping your own bloodline. We were near-human for many many times longer than we have been human, and what we are is still mostly that near-human ancestor. There's nothing spiritual in much of anything we do. It's all nuts and bolts evolutionary mechanics (seems to me, anyway).
 
BTW - when I said "good nature" I was mostly just being optimistic. I reckon we're pretty much evenly balanced between "good" and "evil"...whatever the hell that means.
 
 
-----Original Message-----  From: Harry Binswanger

Altruism isn't religious, it's built-in (well...built-into some people).
Religion just takes advantage our good nature.
(and our need to celebrate the winter solstice...btw)

I think religion takes advantage of the evil (irrational) in some people's nature. If altruism isn't based on religion, what is it based on? I've been unable to find *argument* (good or bad) for altruism in the history of philosophy. It's just taken as self-evident (because of the influence of religion). It's hard to think of what *could* be an argument for "non-you" as the standard of morality.

"Why is it moral to serve the happiness of others, but not your own? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but immoral when experienced by you? If the sensation of eating a cake is a value, why is it an immoral indulgence in your stomach, but a moral goal for you to achieve in the stomach of others?" (Atlas Shrugged, p. 1031)


-BrianH.
 
-----Original Message-----  From: Harry Binswanger
 
Good for Jobs! I guess he learned from the parable of his namesake that there's no point in buying into the ethics of He Who Toys With Us.

Harry Binswanger
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Harry Binswanger
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