Re: A very basic printing question re XY3

["Andy Turnbull" andyt@xxxxxxxx]

Do we assume that Palestinians and Indians are not individuals?

With immigration, you do not invite a foreigner into your house, you invite
him to share a country of which you are only about 1/300,000,000 owner. What
if I want to invite Osama bin Laden to live next door to you? Personally, my
mainj beef with immigration is that North America, (and especially Canada)
poaches brains that have been educated at the expense of countries that
can't afford to lose them. We had an article in our paper this morning about
the problems of India, which educates people who then go to silicon valley
where they can make more money. Education theorist Ivan Illich estimates
that the average high school graduate in Latin America has about 30,000
times as much public money invested in him/her as the average person. If we
then give that person an advanced education in North America we do it to
help his/her native country, not so he/she can abandon his people and look
for the best offer.


In Canada we have hundreds of doctors who were educated at their country's
expense, and at the expense of Canadian foreign aid projects who could live
in relative luxury in their home countries, but who choose instead to take
the gifts their people have given them and that we intended for their
people, and live in more comfort here.


Like it or not, humans are a social species and the person who lives only
for his own benefit is a renegade. You might find an interesting perspective
in Robert Axelrod's book "The Evolution of Cooperation."


andy t

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Binswanger" 

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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: A very basic printing question re XY3





Immigration barriers violate human rights? Does the lock on your front
door violate my rights?


No, but if YOU put a lock on my front door when I want to invite a
foreigner into to my house, that does violate my rights. That's what
immigration law is and does. It prevents property owners from giving
foreigners access to (including sale to) their property. It treats
foreigners as criminals (kinda like your inteded couterexample).



Did the Palestinians have no right to Palestine, where their people had
lived for 1,000 years or more?
Did the Indians have no rights to the Americas?


Essentially, "no" to both cases. There are no collective rights, only the
rights of individuals.

But we digress.

Harry Binswanger
hb@xxxxxxxx




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