Re: Do we actually need XP support?

[Paul Lagasse pglagasse@xxxxxxxx]

Jordan,

Take a look at
http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2010/06/bring-your-windows-xp-pc-over-to-your-windows-7-pc-for-free-in-a-few-simple-steps.html


This might be the solution you need -- converting your XP setup to a
virtual machine. It will apparently handle the hardware conflicts,
though it's not clear from the comments at the site if it always works
or if it will result in need to reactivate Win XP. But if the tools are
still free (the info dates to 2010) it would seem worth a try.


There are other sites that discuss other methods, but this one is
tailored for VMware.


Paul Lagasse


On 03/26/2014 11:44 AM, J R FOX wrote:

Hi Bill,

There are quite a few programs for which I no longer have (or can't
find) the install CDs. For example, an early version of Elements,
a.k.a. PhotoShop Lite. (I have reasons for not wanting later
versions.) I've made attempts to install or move programs like this,
without having the CD, and I've seen that it's a non-starter.


There is a video editor I like, more capable than most, that was a
free-for-24-hours-only deal from the Giveaway of the Day site, which
cannot be re-installed. There are actually more than a few free
promotional programs I got from that site, such as InPaint, but that
editor was one of the ones that does not get repeated periodically. I
could buy new licenses for all of these things, but why should I have
to ? There must be something like 50 video-related apps and utilities
alone that are installed into this XP, plus a lot of apps in various
other categories, and installing all that stuff back into a fresh XP
VM would be a royal pain. If the MS. Ofc. suite can be slipstreamed
into an XP install disc, along with all the accumulated security
patches -- and I've heard of this being done -- then it should also be
possible to do that for _this_ XP. If not, I'd just as soon take that
box offline.



  Jordan


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  *From:* Bill Troop 
  *To:* xywrite@xxxxxxxx
  *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:05 PM
  *Subject:* Re: Do we actually need XP support?

  Jordan, when you say that apps are not non-resinstallable do you
  also mean that they are non-executable? I can't think of many
  older apps that can't just be executed. For example, I never
  'install' XyWrite when I move it to another system. I merely
  execute it.

  Some quite complex and more modern apps cannot be installed but
  can be executed. For example, PageMaker 7, or whatever the last
  version was, could not be installed, if I recall, in Windows
  Vista. Nevertheless, you could just run the program fine. This is
  also true of Adobe's invaluable ATM (Adobe Type Manager) on
  Win-7-32. (It may even be possible to run on Win-7-64???) (Haven't
  tried it on Win 8!)

  What are these apps? I'm sure there is some way of getting them to
  work.

  At 25/03/2014 23:51, you wrote:

  This is really a problem then, in that a lot of my concern was
  for retaining several non-reinstallable apps. That wouldn't do,
  re building something up again from scratch. This seems to lead
  me in the direction of slipstreaming a more loaded XP install
  DVD, or attempting to spin off several apps into portable
  versions. I have no prior experience with either, but guess I'll
  just have to roll up my sleeves and explore this.


    Jordan



    From: Paul Lagasse 
    To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx
    Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:57 AM
    Subject: Re: Do we actually need XP support?

    Jordan, I'm not an expert on this, but I don't think this
    will work
    smoothly, if I understand you correctly. While it is
    straightforward to
    convert an existing XP install disk to an ISO that can be
    used to
    install XP in a VM, trying to copy an existing XP
    installation to an ISO
    and use that installation in a virtual machine is bound to
    lead to at
    least some troubleshooting concerning networking and other
    hardware
    conflicts, and will no doubt result in a demand for
    recertification from
    XP. You might be better off installing XP to a VM and rebuilding
    installation as a VM. The ISOs for the various service packs
    should be
    readily available on the internet.

    Paul Lagasse

    On 03/24/2014 11:40 PM, J R FOX wrote:
    > Bill,
    >
    > I'm wondering if you have come across any insight into how
    those ISOs
    > were made ? As I mentioned previously, and for purposes
    wholly
    > unrelated to Xy, I still have an interest in possibly
    turning my
    > existing XP boot partition into just such a VMWare-ready,
    Guest VM ISO.
    >
    >
    >  Jordan
    >