Re: Footnote Size problem

[Robert Holmgren holmgren@xxxxxxxx]

For some reason, CCAT won't accept and distribute this 
msg -- why?

Routing note from: Robert Holmgren  06/11/00 12:17pm

** Reply to note from Bill Troop Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:32:18 -0400
 
> >I don't see how TrueType can operate outside the M$ GUI context.
 
> Easy, kind of: http://www.freetype.org. A free open source TrueType
> rasterizer/manager that can be ported to any platform.

Hmmm. I'm talking about XyWrite. Can the non-GUI versions adapt a PRN
file to use a "TrueType rasterizer/manager"? Have you got such a PRN file?
That's actually very provocative; maybe that could be done... The output
of TYF would have to be interpreted by the Freetype manager, as it is by
Ghostscript or Goscript. If Freetype can accept standard PCL or
PostScript output, it would be easy; but otherwise, it would NOT be a trivial
task to write a PRN that would provide output that Freetype can understand, e.g.
you need to know the exact commands for microspacing, for designating fonts, for
moving the print head up and down, for EVERYTHING! "Easy, kind of" becomes
"hard, very". Can Freetype render the text, display it on-screen? Comments?

> >I don't see how you're going to get Adobes to work with NBWin either

> By "Adobes" you mean Type 1 Postscript? Do they
> really not work with NBWin? I thought they automatically
> worked with all Windows programs, provided that you
> either had ATM installed, or had Win2000, which has
> ATM built in. It would be very depressing if Type 1
> didn't work with NBWin.

I was talking about using a PRN printer driver, using _my_ customized prolog, to
generate Postscript. In NBWin v5.004, I was able to command "UWF 0" to turn off
the default of UWF=3 (whatever that means, not documented; in XyWin you just
have UWF=0|1|2) and use any PRN file instead of Truetype. But in the
current v5.005, this command does not work -- at least, not on my system (with
which, admittedly, I've messed around a good deal, and perhaps screwed something
up). I need to do a plain vanilla install and see if it works --
re-install v5.004, and then v5.005, and double-check my results. But I suspect
that this has been disabled; NB staff clearly intimated to me that getting PRNs
to work was not something that would be fixed, and indeed that it might be
devalued even further than it's crippled state through v5.004.

ATM may well work with NBWin v5.005. I haven't tried. I want my prolog! I
searched through the entire NB message list for the past 18 months and found
exactly nothing regarding PostScript and NBWin. Which gives you some idea where
the NB community is at (sorry, Dorothy, I just can't bottle it up -- but do you
have any comment on these issues? when you command "UWF 0", do you get any
response from v5.005 Editor? even so much as an error msg? usually there's a
ton of activity when you issue UWF).

To return to point 1): even if you have ATM installed (which I do), a non-GUI,
non-Truetype program needs to generate some sort of output that can be
interpreted by ATM. My question to you is, what is that output?
Where does it come from, if not from a PRN? What existing PRN can I use? If you
have a good PRN, I'd love to see it. Bye.



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