Re: XY4 in Win7-64

[Jon P xywrite4@xxxxxxxx]

In case anyone is following my travails with Win 7, things have improved. Using the Shared folder was the problem--XY has to be within virtual C:.

I installed the Windows 98 version of DOS courtesy in Virtual PC 2007 of our fellow DOS
word-processor enthusiasts.

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/virtualpc.html#usedos

I also installed Kari Eveli's DOS Additions.

http://www.lexitec.fi/xywrite/utility.html

I copied the entire contents of my XY folder into Virtual PC's (emulated DOS) C: drive by making my
XY folder an .iso and having Virtual PC "capture" it, then copying all of the files.

XY4 now appears in a fixed-size window that I am going to try to tweak, but it's perfectly readable.
CLIP.EXE appears to be a lost cause, but the Edit menu of Virtual PC has a Paste function that
pastes from Windows into XY--with a rather amusing simulation of slow typing, apparently so as not
to move too quickly for DOS. (Too bad M$ never figured out how to program CLIP.EXE.)

The Copy function doesn't transfer XY text out into Windows, but most of what I used CLIP for was
the inbound direction. All in all, this might actually work out.

Jon Pareles

--- On Sat, 7/21/12, FreeLists Mailing List Manager  wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jon P 
> Subject: Re: XY4 in Win7-64
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> I have installed Virtual PC 2007 and a DOS machine (6.22)
> inside that, along with the dosadds virtual disk.
>
> I have added my C:\XY directory as a shared folder called
> drive X:
>
> When DOS loads a C:> prompt I change directory to X: and
> then run editor.exe (XY4).  Startup.int and
> Settings.DFL are the portable versions.
>
> XY4 takes many, many long minutes to load, and sometimes it
> just hangs. Doing something as formerly instantaneous as
> calling a file or using the thesaurus hangs again, though it
> eventually gets there.
>
> I suspect it has something to do with the paths to Startup,
> Settings and the thesaurus, but I don't quite understand how
> paths work within Virtual PC.
>
> So a couple of questions:
> 1) How do you load your XY into the Virtual PC DOS window?
> 2) What paths are in your STARTUP.INT and SETTINGS.DFL
> files? I'll try hard-coding them again in case that's what's
> hanging up Virtual PC, but I don't know whether they should
> be C:\XY or C:\X or something else.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Incidentally, besides the CLIP.EXE problem, DOSBox gets
> fuzzy type when I use my larger window (though it's sharp
> again in "fullresolution" 1024 x 768.
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> Jon Pareles
>
>
>
>
> > From: "Kari Eveli" 
> >
> > As I said earlier:
> > There other possibilities you might want to explore:
> > Running Virtual PC 2007 on Windows 7 (the blog of V PC
> > developer at MS):
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2009/08/19/running-virtual-pc-2007-on-windows-7.aspx
> > This contains the pros and cons quite extensively.
> >
> > I would suggest to skip the XP mode altogether and run
> a
> > separate Virtual PC 2007 program with DOS 6 installed
> in it.
> > Select the 64 BIT/setup.exe
> > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=4580
> >
> > DOS applications run very well under this environment.
>
> >
> > How to install DOS additions, see my page and look for
> the
> > "DOS Additions" download (MS-supplied version is not
> > compatible with DOS).
> > http://www.lexitec.fi/xywrite/utility.html
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kari Eveli
>
>
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> From: "Kari Eveli" 
> Subject: Re: XY4 in Win7-64
> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:41:39 +0300
>
> >I suspect it has something to do with the paths to
> Startup, Settings and the thesaurus, but I don't quite
> understand how paths work within Virtual PC.
>
> Paths work just like normal DOS. Try using Xy in the VPC C:
> partition to see if the problem resides in the shared disk.
> You might try to point the VPC x: disk to a folder with a
> DOS-compliant path like C:\disk on the host machine.
>
> Actually I am using Nota Bene 3.0 DOS (= a Xy3+ variant)
> under VPC 32-bit on Win XP 32-bit. NB is a bit slow to start
> compared to Xy and it takes about 3 seconds. My Xy4 copy
> takes 1-2 seconds to load. The performance should be
> comparable to a Pentium-class standalone DOS machine. Using
> an alias X: disk makes no difference in my case.
>
> Try other DOS software to see if the problem lies in the VPC
> installation or if it is your Xy installation.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kari Eveli
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