Re: Tame con't

[Harry Binswanger hb@xxxxxxxx]

Michael,
> At 02:00 PM 4/12/2006, Harry Binswanger wrote:
>  3. Right click in text area: brings up the same menu as (2) but now
> "Color Change" does bring up its own dialogue box of color settings. But
> there doesn't seem to be any effect of using "Color Change"--it lets you
> define a custom color, but so what?
> Okay, progress. Now, call up those two dialogs again, then View-->Color
> Adjustment-. Click, *Reset to defaults.*
Sorry to be dense, but I don't know what you mean by "call up those two
dialogs again, then View..." There is only one dialog box on the screen at
a time, and there's no "View" in sight.
>  This should instantly return to the background to XY's original cerulean
> blue background. Now, pick a color from the *Basic colors* group of
> colors and click on it. That color will appear in the larger box marked
> *color* which is to the left of the three temperature value boxes. Use
> the slider to adjust it. Click *Add to custom colors.* Now go to the two
> rows of custom colors and highlight (click) on the color you have just
> created. Now, to finish, click *okay.* And the color should instantly
> take effect. When you quit XY TAME will automatically save that setting
> for you.

Can't try any of the above till I know where "View" is.
> > After I redefined MD NM to 240 in SETTINGS.DFL, I have a beautiful text
> > area in Tame-Xy. And for some inexplicable reason, things seem better
> > behaved after using your batch-file approach to loading Tame for Xy use.
> Okay, here's what D. Thomas said about the difference in behavior between
> a .lnk to TAME and a .pif. (Remember, if you created a shortcut to (from)
> the .bat file, you are ipso facto creating a .lnk
Oh, oh. I knew my ignorance of .lnk vs. .pif was going to come back and
bite me sooner or later. I have a desktop shortcut that launches XY.BAT,
which has:
C:\PROGRA~1\Tame\Tame-nt.com
C:\xy\Editor.exe /e4000

Is a desktop shortcut a .lnk or .pif? How do you make one vs. the other?
> and TAME, according to DT, wants a .pif. David Thomas writes: *Actually, a
> lnk is treated differently by Tame. In efect, tame will always see the
> _default.pif, and you will lose the ability for shortcut specific
> settings.* I get part of that, but not all of it. Main, point, use the
> .pif; simply create that shortcut to editor.exe
Isn't that what I did? I created the desktop shortcut by right clicking on
an empty part of the desktop, then doing New/Shortcut. That brings up one
of those damnable wizards, which allows me to finish creating the shortcut.
>  then in the cmd line put [XY].bat.

In brackets, as above?
> David also said this: *With the latest update, create a tame.ini file in
> the settings folder, and use the following so Tame wil mo load with dos
> apps wiyth no pif:
>
> [_default.pif]
> EnableTame=F
>
> He lost me a bit here, but what the heck, try it.
> > Am I right that, at least when the .PIF launches a .BAT file, the "Fonts"
> > setting in the .PIF is irrelevant?
>
> Superfluous perhaps because you have a lot more choices in the TAME console.
> > > > 2. The ctrl-J doesn't work regardless of the settings of delays in
> > > > Xywrite.app.tam. I can change the speed at which characters are output,
> > > > but not get it do realize that the ctrl key is still being held down.
> Okay, so we're really down to this anomaly, right. Did you send David a
> note about this?
Not yet. I do observe that playing around with the delay settings means I
sometimes get numbers put out, instead of cursor movements, when I hold
down the arrow keys.
My current (semi-random) settings are:
/TameConsole
    KeyRepeat1=30  ; group 1 - cursor movement
    KeyRepeat2=5  ; group 2 - text
    KeyRepeat3=5  ; group 3 - Ctl-cursor keys, Tab
    KeyRepeat4=150 ; group 4 - Page up/down, Enter
    KeyRepeat5=500 ; group 5 - Other keys
> > > What's your key assignment for ctrl-j. I'll try it.
> >
> > Table=CTRLX
> > 36=ll
>
> Hm. I put LL in
>
> TABLE=
> 101=LL
> I duplicated your key call and the result was: the cursor backspaced
> instead of going to the end of the line, as it should.
First of all, try it on ctrl-j (36 in Table=CTRLX). Second, LL should
indeed go left (i.e., backwards).
And I already do have 101=LL. Now, with the Thomas-suggested setting for
_default.PIF, I get VERY slow cursor movement. Plus, numbers instead of
cursor movement when I hold the arrow keys down. Very puzzling.
>  Harry, perhaps the problem is that particular assignment in TAME, which
> is to say asking a letter key to accomplish cursor movement. Try my
> assignment and see what happens.

See above. Still no relief in sight. Does Dave Thomas take phone calls?



Harry Binswanger
hb@xxxxxxxx