> >Nathan WRote: > > >Your tip about reclaiming ALT key gratefully received. May I add that > >when you want the menu bar, you can call it up by holding down the right > >mouse button and double-clicking on the first line with the left. This > >has the advantage of also being a hathayoga asana that increases the > >powers of concentration. > > Or just type at the command line: func sho. What the heck are you guys talking about? Hit the F10 key, for pete's sake. 8-) Or did you both go back to XY3 all of a sudden? BTW, Jim's mod for the ALT key (to stop it from starting the menu bar) is great, don't know why I didn't try that before -- I think what I tried to do earlier involved trying to remove that specific line from the startup.int, and that caused a crash on booting the program. Now, if I could just figure out a way to get the old XY3 header back so that Bookshelf would still work with XY4! > I don't know about hatha yoga for mice; I don't own one. I'm morally > opposed to anything that takes one's hands off the keyboard. So am I -- what I did was buy a Logitech portable trackball (what they sell for laptops) and hung it on the right end of my keyboard, which, BTW, is always on my lap anyway. > >Could you explain, for the benefit of the assembled multitude, how to > >shift the saveget functions from F2 to the newly freed ALT? Most people > >will want to do all this at once, I should think. I'm not sure I do, Nathan -- I did at first, after getting Signature, but now I'm used to it. What then, pray tell, would you do with the F2 key? Here's another thought -- I've long been lusting after one of those Maxiswitch 124 key keyboards with all the programmable keys. Has anyone tried one with XY? I've got a Northgate with F-keys on the left and also across the top -- the top ones were supposed to be programmable, but all they do is get set to either Shift -F, or Crtl-F, or Alt-F, and all the same. So I've got mine all set to Shift-F, but I only use a few. So I'm probably going to get a Maxiswitch. On the other hand, I'm looking very seriously at several types of one handed "chording" keyboards, and definitely am going to buy one of those as soon as I can figure out which one. I want to learn to use it with my left hand (I'm righthanded), so I can figure out if it increases my creativity (using rightbrain to write). And also to build a more portable rig for away from home. Am also looking seriously at a pen tablet -- has anyone tried using pen stuff with XY? Gee, if I can chord with my left hand, and use a pen tablet with my right --- hmmm! Harmon Seaver hseaver@xxxxxxxx <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> "The Way of the Samurai is death." - Jocho Yamamoto 1710 Hagakure <> <> "Let no man's life stand in the way -- especially your own." <> <> Miyamoto Musashi 1584-1645 <> <> "The fundamental delusion of humanity is to suppose that I am here <> <> and you are out there." Yasutani Roshi <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><>