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RE: [Off Topic] Windows Genuine Advantage




Good points raised Phil.
And by you. I also scream with frustration at MS and a lot of software by other vendors (never at Xy!). But they do provide value, and I don't see them as seeking to, in Patricia's words, rummage around on people's hard drives. I trust them to be greedy enough to see that there is no future for them in doing that. --Harry
I work for a company that develops, sells and supports an MIS system for Printing companies. Because our customer base is so small (700-800 companies world-wide), we have to charge 15% per annum support fee. This is on top of the purchase price that can range from $5000 for a very base system with 2 users thru to $500,000+ for enterprise installations. Yes, I agree with the general feeling amongst this distribution group regarding Micro$oft and BBBG, but at the end of the day, they do produce SOME fine software, operating systems (DOS 3.3 and 5.0 come to mind) and applications (Access 2.0). Micro$oft is a massive organisation and I think because of that it is easy to point the finger at them (just like McDonalds, Nike, Wal-Mart...) Sure they have made mistakes - costly for some people / organisations, but apart from the basic "Hello World" batch files, there is no bug free software. And a lot of software companies have produced horrendous apps. If using Micro$oft operating systems/apps goes against the grain for some people, there are alternatives available. Marc -----Original Message----- From: owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil White Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 12:55 p.m. To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [Off Topic] Windows Genuine Advantage Importance: High Please understand that Microsoft is really no more crass or greedy than any of its competitors; it has to make money to stay in business. (It is not the Federal government.) Windows free software updates are a genuine bargain. It is a "perk" you get by buying the major product from the major company in a very competitive market. The cost of the software maintenance provided to Windows users is defrayed by spreading the expense across the many millions of copies they have sold (and continue to sell.) It is an excellent example of the "economy of scale." -- If Microsoft were a smaller company with a smaller pool of users, the cost of maintaining a package with the complexity of Windows could never be done for free; they would have to charge for it. Recently, I purchased Windows Live OneCare for about $32.00 from my local Sam's Club. The license provides anti-virus, anti-spyware, auto-update, backup and online interactive tech support for three computers for a year. This is a fairly new product and it still has its rough edges, but IMO, there is nothing else which provides such seamless support. I expect that it will become even better in the future. Not everyone is a computer wiz; and not everyone wants to be one. (Just ask my wife.) This package provides a good level of support for a platform which must continually to evolve to keep current. The OneCare concept is a very logical solution. This IS a Genuine Advantage. I strongly recommend it as a "buy." Phil White pdwhite@xxxxxxxx Philip D. White, Senior Information Architect University of Houston, CASA Testing Center Phone: (713) 743-4135 Fax: (713) 743-8630 Email: pdwhite@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-xywrite@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Norman Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:31 To: xywrite@xxxxxxxx Subject: [Off Topic] Windows Genuine Advantage There's been a flood or WEB articles on MS' Windows Genuine Advantage (XP) patches. Frankly, I can't decide whether to throw in the towel, download these corporate efforts to, MS says, combat piracy, or to look on them as spyware or worse and get updates from a third-party enterprise program such as NetChk Protect (free for a year). I certainly don't want to create a contretemps here, waste bandwidth and clutter mailboxes and would be fine with pulling this post, but I'm curious whether others are simply ignoring the issue, downloading the two WGA components (required if you want to use WinAutoUpdates) and just keeping to their work. Thanks for your thoughts. Michael Norman
Harry Binswanger hb@xxxxxxxx