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Re: Various virtual machines compared
- Subject: Re: Various virtual machines compared
- From: Paul Breeze paul.breeze@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:37:48 +0000
Dear HarryI have already tried virtually all the possible options on various
version of Tame and none work for me. I think it is a problem with the
screen virtualisation that Tame uses. I have discussed it with the
author in the past and he appears to have been aware of the limitation
but didn't appear to find a solution. Cursor movement is fine for
scrolling when the movement is assigned to a single key. When a key
combination is needed to active it, then there is an insupportable time
lag. I use various key combinations for different cursor jumps.
On 26/01/2013 15:03, Harry Binswanger wrote:
I don't know what keys you are using for cursor movement but I have
found that you cannot use any key combination for cursor movement in
Tame. I always use Ctrl-Left Arrow to jump left one word. This has
never worked properly in Tame but will work if you program the same
movement to a singe key such as left-arrow on the number keypad. I
never found a solution for this in spite of some exchanges with the
Here are some relevant lines from my customization files, if you feel
like blind experimentation. This from 5.1 Pre-release 9, C:\My
;;* Change repeat rates
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName=Text RepeatRate = 45 ; rate is in
chars per secon
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName=LeftRight1 RepeatRate = 60 ; left/right cursor
;; Also move keys to a different repeat rate group
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName=LeftRight1 IncludeChar='^J' ; Note hat
ctl-J is XY keycode 289 with BIOS, 36 if not BIOS mode
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName=UpDown1 IncludeChar='^V', '^T'
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName = Action
; /KeyGroupDef GroupName = Control
;; Use the following for keys that:
;; - Do not produce a BIOS scan code for DOS
;; - Are tagged with NI in the KBD file
/KeyGroupDef GroupName = SysRepeat
;; Keys that do not produce a BIOS scan code for DOS
IncludeScan=#27 ;** ';' key with ctl or alt
;; Example of key tagged with NI in the KBD file
IncludeScan=#53 ;** DEl
Does anyone know what language this is written in?
On 26/01/2013 05:07, Jon P wrote:
My VirtualPC 2007 balked at Win 3.11 and DOS 6. Wouldn't run them.
That might be my installation error. But when I did get Windows 98
running under it, communication with Windows 7 was agonizingly
slow--something Ed Mendelson also complains about with his
Wordperfect DOS workarounds. Whereas XP Mode is instant.
I see why Harry wants Tame. It makes XY's display a lot more flexible
with fonts, window sizes, number of lines onscreen and other
customizations we weren't expecting back in the DOS days.
I'm still having intermittent cursor arrow-key movement problems and
am trying to figure out what triggers them, but otherwise Tame under
XP Mode runs smoothly for me.
From: "Kari Eveli"
Subject: Re: Various virtual machines compared
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:38:21 +0200
This may be. But why try to "Tame" an unwilling Windows
version, when you could run DOS under a virtual machine
without any need for it? After all, DOS does not need to be
tamed. The DOS/Win 3.11 w/DOS boxes under VirtualPC works
(under XP 32-bit at least) without any taming and just as a
dedicated DOS/Win 3.11 machine would.