Dear Jordan
Yes, that sounds about right, though you may not need NTFSDOS. (It is
so long ago that I did this that I cannot remember what I used if for. I
do recall that is does allow you to navigate the C drive from dos and
rename or delete files as necessary. This may become apparent as you
proceed. Anyway:
What I did for the 'by hand' system was to remove any peripherals
attached to the the original system except mouse and display, then
remove all the specific drivers for display, motherboard, chipset. For
some of these you need to replace the manufacturer-specific driver with
a generic Microsoft driver, others you can simply remove without
stopping the system from working. (The generic Microsoft drivers should
work with any system.)
Once you have done this, move the hard drive (in this case a clone) to
your new system and see if it boots. It might. More likely you will
get a blue screen or it will simply keep rebooting.
At this stage you should try and boot from the Windows 98 floppy drive.
If you can boot just command FDISK /MBR. Once this is done, then remove
the floppy and try booting from the hard drive again. If you are lucky
it will work.
I will send copies of the AVIRA NTFSDOS program, a pdf manual for the
Avira program and a floppy disc image. You can also generate the disc
from the program.
This latter email will arrive labelled VIRUS as before. I just tested
this by sending it to myself.
Good luck
Paul
On 22/02/2020 18:22, J R FOX wrote:
Hi Paul,
I'm finally ready to try this, but may need that Avira
NTFSDOS that you mentioned . . . unless I can find
that FreeDOS boot disc (which might be a CD), hoping
that it is similarly equipped for NTFS access.
Let me see if I've got this procedure right:
1. First, set the BIOS to permit booting from a USB
floppy drive. (And hope that that works.) With
any of the computers in question, that is a *different*
setting than allowing for optical drive boot, or USB
optical drive or flashdrive boot. With some of these
computers, some of those choices will be obeyed, and
some will just be ignored.
2. Assuming it's gotten that far, use the NTFSDOS diskette.
3. Use the W98 boot floppy to run FDISK /MBR. (?)
I've already cloned the subject HDD, and can re-clone it
as necessary. Also going to try the Macrium Reflect restore-
to-different-hardware facility. Hopefully one of these things
will work.
Jordan
On Monday, February 10, 2020, 5:39:08 AM PST, Paul Breeze
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Jordan
Thank link may be useful. I have used Virtual Floppy Drive in the past
but it does not seem to work with 64 bit windows, or at least I have not
been able to get it to work.
Regarding the boot disc, you need a real floppy disc drive and a real
floppy disc. I have used a usb floppy drive and that was fine. To key
to the trick is that you are overwriting the master boot record of the
system drive and this is protected if you boot from it. However if you
boot from a floppy you can carry out this operation. If you are running
a virtual pc with XP then you can simply boot from the image, but if you
want to rebuild a real system you need the real hardware. I used to do
this regularly when I ran a system based on XP.
Paul
On 09/02/2020 17:06, J R FOX wrote:
Hi Paul,
I still have an external (USB powered) floppy drive. Since we're all
about the by now fairly obscure here
on this List, for reference sake I will mention a diskette
imaging program that I used successfully, back in the
day, from a French software developer.
ARDI | VETUSWARE.COM - the biggest free abandonware collection in the
universe <https://vetusware.com/manufacturer/ARDI/?author=1176>
On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 10:11:12 AM PST, Paul Breeze
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear Jordan
It is a 3.5 inch DOS floppy boot disc (image) so it is no size atall.
That is what you need for this trick. You have to be able to boot into
DOS from the floppy disc and then use the dos utility. I have always
used a Win98 floppy boot disk but it will probably work with earlier
versions of DOS if you have one that you can boot with. If you would
like a copy of the one I have, I can send it to you privately.
Paul
On Friday, February 7, 2020, 5:47:40 AM PST, Paul Breeze
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PS. There is an old trick, that your probably already know, for when
Windows XP will not boot after copying to a new drive or restoring. Boot
from a Windows 98 boot disk and then command FDISK /MBR. This
overwrites the master boot record, forcing XP to recreate it. In case
you should be interested I also have a copy of AVIRA's NTFSDOS which
allows you access to a hard drive formatted with NTFS from DOS.