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Re: Dosemu, Linux, XyWrite -- another clipboard kludge



Attaboy, Bob (and Paul, too)!  This will be a big help to me, and I greatly appreciate your efforts at resolving this and sharing your solutions.

My experience with Linux has been very satisfying, too.  My first experience with macros of any kind was in XyWrite III+, and it stands to reason that more than 20 years later there'd be a reliable Linux solution for building macros.  Thanks for the heads-up on Xmacros, Bob.

Jeff
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:08:24 -0500
From: Bob Zimmerman mailto:zimmerman@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Dosemu, Linux, XyWrite -- another clipboard kludge
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From: Paul Lagasse mailto:pglagasse@xxxxxxxx
>In an attempt to avoid having to open a file to transfer text to/from
>XyWrite in Linux, I have come up with with what I think is a somewhat
>easier, more automated kludge for transfering text to and from the Linux
>clipboard when running XyWrite under Dosemu......[snip]
>To clip from say "Firefox," I highlight the text, do ctrl+c, then
>doubleclick "To Xywrite Clipboard," and then do ctrl+alt+v to insert the
>text in XyWrite.

Paul's method above certainly works for cutting and pasting in and out of
Xywrite in Linux, but it requires too many keystrokes and mouse actions for my
taste.

However, his kludge suggestion to clip into a file, clip.txt, save it, and then
MErge the file into Xywrite, was brilliant, and led me to come up with my own
cut-and-paste kludge that, by using a Linux macro program, reduces the number of
keystrokes for placing text into Xywrite to two, the same as you would have with
any program.

The macro program is called Xmacros. It is part of the Debian package, which
means it should also be available in Ubantu. (At the command prompt: sudo
apt-get install xmacros) I should also note that Xmacros has been incredible
useful for running a lot of other macros in all my Linux programs, thereby
reducing the number of repetitive keystrokes I have to do.

Xmacros allows you to create macros two ways. 1. You can run a subprogram,
xmacrorec2, to record your keystrokes. I have had problems getting this to
function properly. 2. You can write the macro in any plain text editor. The
commands are simple (see http://xmacro.sourceforge.net/), and I have found this
method to be quick and easy.

To make the whole operation work I keep a text editor with the file clip.txt
open at all times. I use Kwrite, but any plain text editor will do. In Linux, it
is easy to place this open file/program in Desktop 4, out of the way, where it
functions as my silent dos clipboard.

The full macro for copying text to Xywrite is as follows. Note that anything
after the pound sign is a comment and can be deleted:

# Switches from command prompt to window where text is selected:
KeyStrPress Alt_L
KeyStrPress Tab
KeyStrRelease Tab
KeyStrRelease Alt_L
# Copies the selection into Linux clipboard:
KeyStrPress Control_L
KeyStrPress C
KeyStrRelease C
KeyStrRelease Control_L
# Switches to Desktop 4, where I keep clip.txt open all the time:
KeyStrPress Control_L
KeyStrPress Alt_L
KeyStrPress 4
KeyStrRelease 4
KeyStrRelease Alt_L
KeyStrRelease Control_L
# Pastes selection into clip.txt:
KeyStrPress Control_L
KeyStrPress R
KeyStrRelease R
KeyStrRelease Control_L
# Saves clip.txt:
KeyStrPress F12
KeyStrRelease F12
# Selects all (necessary to make future selections work):
KeyStrPress Control_L
KeyStrPress A
KeyStrRelease A
KeyStrRelease Control_L
# Switches back to Desktop 1, back where I started:
KeyStrPress Control_L
KeyStrPress Alt_L
KeyStrPress 1
KeyStrRelease 1
KeyStrRelease Alt_L
KeyStrRelease Control_L

I created a text file of the above and named it doscopy.macro.

I then used the KDE menu editor to create a shortcut to doscopy.macro in the
Start menu. (Sidebar: I use Debian Etch with KDE as my Xwindows GUI. The KDE
menu editor allows me to create a menu of program shortcuts accessible by
pressing the Start key. I put all my macro shortcuts in Start - System - Macros.
Each macro gets its own shortcut menu item.) For the doscopy shortcut the
command line should read:

cat /home/bob/programs/macros/doscopy.macro | xmacroplay -d 15:0

The "-d 15:0" puts a 15 millisecond delay between each command. I have found
with testing that this can sometimes be as low as 0, and sometimes must be as
high as 30, for the macro to work reliably. I try to keep the number low to
speed things along. It just requires a little experimentation to find the right
number.

I also check "run in terminal" in the shortcut options. I then assign a shortcut
key to this shortcut menu item. For my doscopy.macro, I gave it Ctrl-Alt-C.

In my Xywrite 3.55 keyboard.kbd file, I created a keyboard macro at Ctrl-Space,
like so:

57=BC,m,e, ,E,:,\,x,y,w,r,i,t,e,4,\,x,y,4,\,c,l,i,p,.,t,x,t,XC,CH

In my Xywrite 4 xy4.kbd file, I created the following keyboard macro for
Ctrl-Space:

57=BX,(,m,e, ,D,:,\,x,y,w,r,i,t,e,4,\,x,y,4,\,c,l,i,p,.,t,x,t,)

Thus, to paste some text into either Xywrite 3.55 or Xywrite 4, I select the
text in any Linux program and press Ctrl-Alt-C. Then in Xywrite I press
Ctrl-Space and the text is inserted. Very simple.

Sidebar: I use DosBox as my Dos emulator. I have found it very stable, reliable,
easy to use, and very flexible. However, this system should also work very
easily with Dosemu.

As for pasting out of Xywrite into Linux, I don't need to do it very often. If I
do, I find I generally have to paste the whole file. In that case it is easier
to save it, and then upload it directly using another program.

I also use Xmacros to run two macros for allowing me to write all my emails in
Xywrite. With one keystroke I tell my email program to reply, quote the text of
the original email, and then using clip.txt cut and paste this into Xywrite.
Once I've finished writing my email it takes two keystrokes to cut and paste my
written email out of Xywrite and back into my email program, ready to send. If
anyone is interested I can write up the details on how these macros work for the
listserv.

It is now three weeks since I began working in my Linux box full time. All told,
I am very happy with Linux, especially when I read about the numerous problems
others on this list are having adapting to Vista. Linux is not perfect, but it
works. And in those cases where something goes wrong, I have found that the
solution is almost always transparent and obvious, not hidden behind the
typically inexplicable error messages of Windows that provide no information at
all.

Bob
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